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Re:“The Pirate Bay can’t be stopped,” co-founder says by lovelyviking on Sunday November 28, 2021 @03:24PM (#29372610)
>"Piracy" has been a term of art in the copyright world for over 100 years.

So if it's long enough it assumes it's correct? Hard to see logical connection there.

In our power to reconsider false and confusing terminology.

Re:“The Pirate Bay can’t be stopped,” co-founder says by Levitz on Sunday November 28, 2021 @03:52PM (#29372890)
>So if it's long enough it assumes it's correct? Hard to see logical connection there.

Well... Yes? That's how words work, really. If enough people agree a word means something, then it does.

Re:“The Pirate Bay can’t be stopped,” co-founder says by Andrew_nenakhov on Sunday November 28, 2021 @05:39PM (#29373877)
No, that's how words lose their meaning: when they are used in inappropriate context to describe something completely unrelated.

Another modern example of a word that rapidly loses its meaning is "fascism": these days it is used as a general term for any policy not supported by the person that uses it. BLM fascists, left fascists, ultraright fascists, antifa fascists. On the subreddit about new Apple "Foundation" show someone described the depicted Empire as fascist. Everybody are fascists, especially the US who have fascias everywhere in state imagery!

Re:“The Pirate Bay can’t be stopped,” co-founder says by Levitz on Monday November 29, 2021 @04:30PM (#29385542)
I hate what you refer to too, it's essentially changing the meaning of a word with political intent. It also happened with "tolerance", went from enduring something you don't like to not caring about it in the first place.

But all that does it make words mean different things at different points in time, which is still just how words work. The meaning of the word "gay" is pretty different now than what it was, "meat" used to refer to all solid food, not just muscle and organs, "tweeting" is, at this point, more used as a reference to an internet service than to birds.

We didn't get to learn a final and set version of our languages, we just got the current one, they all keep changing nonstop and words changing meaning is just one of the ways in which that happens.

Re:“The Pirate Bay can’t be stopped,” co-founder says by Andrew_nenakhov on Tuesday November 30, 2021 @05:51PM (#29398471)
But in our case, "piracy" has exactly same meaning as it did 400 years ago: attacks on sea vessels, plunder of wealth and kidnapping of people for ransom or for sale.

It has precisely zero relation to copyright infringement, and should not be used to denote the it.

Re:“The Pirate Bay can’t be stopped,” co-founder says by lovelyviking on Sunday November 28, 2021 @05:10PM (#29373566)
When healthy discussion is needed wrong terms do not help because they become propaganda terms masking the real meaning. In that case they should be reconsidered and corrected for discussion to have any chance for success.
Re:“The Pirate Bay can’t be stopped,” co-founder says by technothrasher on Sunday November 28, 2021 @06:21PM (#29374303)
> In our power to reconsider false and confusing terminology.

Is it? Framing a conversation through word connotation is a very powerful, and oft used, political tool. It isn't necessarily within your power to control it when stronger political and social forces are pushing it in other directions.

Re:“The Pirate Bay can’t be stopped,” co-founder says by lelandfe on Sunday November 28, 2021 @03:44PM (#29372797)
> So if it's long enough it assumes it's correct

Sure, that's a good enough of a descriptivist basis for a definition to be "correct."

I'd wager most folks on here don't see the name "The Pirate Bay" and question what it has to do with literal seafaring scallywags.

Re:“The Pirate Bay can’t be stopped,” co-founder says by mountainboy on Sunday November 28, 2021 @08:11PM (#29375167)
counterpoint. I do. every time. Using the term "pirate" or "piracy" for copyright infringement annoys the hell out of me.
Re:“The Pirate Bay can’t be stopped,” co-founder says by skinnymuch on Monday November 29, 2021 @05:10AM (#29378106)
You don’t question it because of actual confusion. You’re questioning it because you want to question it each time you come across it. Makes sense. It is an issue for you.