Re:I Don't Want to Be on Call Anymore
by SpicyLemonZest on Sunday November 28, 2021 @12:32PM
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I mean this with all the respect in the world, but I think you've gotten yourself caught in an ideological bubble here. To someone who doesn't already agree with you, this comment sounds like an argument against the concept of wage theft more than an argument against oncall. After all, you can't prove something's bad just by classifying it under a nasty-sounding label!
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To be fair, if they are so far off the end that they think "man, getting called up at 2am without being paid was great because I learned how to keep my cool during a crisis!" then they are probably a lost cause.
It's fine to drink of the chalice of the corporate kool aid with moderation. Still, one should never get black out drunk out of it.
I purposefully did not make an argument against on-call, although I might have easily done that and others have in this thread. All I said is that doing on-call without pay is wage theft. And this is not an ideological bubble thing, as anyone will quickly understand if they ask a plumber to do on-call for their house plumbing system without pay.
Re:I Don't Want to Be on Call Anymore
by oceanplexian on Sunday November 28, 2021 @07:47PM
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I think a another analogy is that you had a plumber do some work for you a day before a leak, and in the middle of the night the pipes start leaking and you need to call him out to prevent property damage. In that case I would absolutely not expect to have to pay extra because he warranties his own work.
Re:I Don't Want to Be on Call Anymore
by 1123581321 on Sunday November 28, 2021 @06:40PM
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A better analogy would be a plumber you pay a handsome annual salary to maintain and improve your pipes--to what degree should they owe some emergency time in return is the question in this thread.
Re:I Don't Want to Be on Call Anymore
by lotsofpulp on Sunday November 28, 2021 @10:52PM
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Plumbers (or companies employing plumbers) warranty their work. Do employees warranty their work for employers? I have never heard of that arrangement in the US.
Re:I Don't Want to Be on Call Anymore
by 1123581321 on Monday November 29, 2021 @12:49PM
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I haven’t heard of that here either. The closest I can think of are sanctions that can be levied on individual employees by professional standards organizations. I do know trades warranties aren’t provided by employees working in that trade to their employer, just to customer individuals or organizations.