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Re:I Don't Want to Be on Call Anymore by lightbendover on Sunday November 28, 2021 @11:12AM (#29370009)
Getting paid 200k+ for a job that had on-call as part of stated duties (and thus baked into the comp) prior to accepting the offer is now working for free? There is hyperbole and then there is whatever this is.

Don’t like it, quit and find a company that is moving slowly and doesn’t value ownership from engineers, someone else will fill in the vacant post. Sounds like a reasonably sustainable business model to me, especially since it has worked like this for over decades at some companies.

Re:I Don't Want to Be on Call Anymore by YZF on Sunday November 28, 2021 @06:43PM (#29374501)
There are plenty of jobs in good companies that pay well and don't require you to be a slave to your job. Companies that can move fast and treat their employees well vs. companies that exploit their employees. I am a manager in such a company and my team can move fast and own stuff during the work day and then relax on their weekend so they can get back to moving fast and owning stuff when they're back at work.

This has totally not been this way for decades.

Now if you're a founder, or you're being paid for this extra work or own a significant part of the business and benefit from it's success, that's a little bit different.

Re:I Don't Want to Be on Call Anymore by spaetzleesser on Sunday November 28, 2021 @10:25PM (#29376024)
"Getting paid 200k+ for a job that had on-call as part of stated duties (and thus baked into the comp) prior to accepting the offer is now working for free? There is hyperbole and then there is whatever this is."

The lawyers at my company go home at 5 and make way more. I know a doctor who gets paid somewhere around $1500 for every day he is on call. And when they actually call him he makes even more.

Re:I Don't Want to Be on Call Anymore by listenallyall on Monday November 29, 2021 @12:15PM (#29382358)
You're likely very wrong about the lawyers. They leave at 5 when nothing is urgent. But in certain crisis situations -- company being bought out, a severe injury occurred on premises, a client is suing you, etc -- those lawyers will be expected to respond 24/7 all through a full weekend or beyond.

Of course, you can still go to law school if you're really that jealous.

Re:I Don't Want to Be on Call Anymore by Retric on Sunday November 28, 2021 @06:51PM (#29374565)
How many IT people on call are actually making 200+k? The general rule I have seen is people on call get paid less as people eventually negotiate very slightly lower salaries for not being on call.
Re:I Don't Want to Be on Call Anymore by Invictus0 on Sunday November 28, 2021 @06:32PM (#29374415)
Amazing to see all these awful takes. This _is_ America I suppose.