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Re:Australia to introduce new laws to force media platforms ... by ggm on Saturday November 27, 2021 @09:31PM (#29365662)
The Wild West lasted 30 years. Significant amounts of land damage, violence against women and indigenous people happened. Cowboys were overwhelmingly Spanish speaking. It wasn't America's finest libertarian dream, cattle barons exploited everyone, consumers included. Chicago was a nightmare of meat packing. Mass immigration was in full swing.

No part of the world is away from government reach, you espouse a fantasy.

Re:Australia to introduce new laws to force media platforms ... by macdaknife on Saturday November 27, 2021 @10:24PM (#29365921)
Your answer not true. In fact, the "Wild West" is still in fact a reality.

1. Land damage as in the largest public lands system in the world? 2. Violence against women who were among the first in the world given the right to vote? 3. Violence against people that were plenty violent? 4. Cowboys spoke many languages. Your point is what? 5. Chicago is the "Wild West", huh? 6. Immigration is good, depending.

Leave the internet out of your politics, please.

Re:Australia to introduce new laws to force media platforms ... by ggm on Saturday November 27, 2021 @11:27PM (#29366153)
Why do you think the cows existed? Chicago is where the wild west cows wound up. Cowboys existed because barons of beef on the hoof wanted cheap Mexican (Spanish speaking) vaccero labour to move cattle, trampling down sheep and other farming fences, to exploit prairie grasses without paying land damage costs, to ship meat to Chicago to feed the exploding eastern state population.

Cowboy culture and wild West was exploitative bullshit, both literally and figuratively. What was happening was a fight between expansion for cows, other farming, and the sweep westward. It lasted 30 years before it was legalised into normality. Dodge city cowboys are a myth based on thin facts and nothing about the wild west is good regarding internet governance

Re:Australia to introduce new laws to force media platforms ... by Eelongate on Sunday November 28, 2021 @12:29AM (#29366447)
> Dodge city cowboys are a myth based on thin facts and nothing about the wild west is good regarding internet governance

Nothing about the real wild west as you describe it has anything to do with the internet. Where are the analogous internet cows or commercial exploitation of internet prairies, or sweeps westward? This is all nonsensical. The literal reality of the wild west has nothing to do with regulating "trolls" (criticism of politicians) online.

Re:Australia to introduce new laws to force media platforms ... by aaplok on Saturday November 27, 2021 @10:50PM (#29366028)
> Leave the internet out of your politics, please.

Your comment would have a lot more value without this cheap attack. The article and all the comments are about the politics of the internet. OP has the right to express their opinion, however wrong they might feel to you.

Re:Australia to introduce new laws to force media platforms ... by ggm on Saturday November 27, 2021 @11:31PM (#29366166)
The wild west is a really bad metaphor for internet governance at any time. Firstly by sheer weight of numbers it's China and India who carry the users. Secondly it never had a deregulated state, ever, since before ARPAnet telecommunications were fully regulated state or post monopolised regulated by the outcomes of the RBOC lawsuits.

This "we need more wild west" is a fantasy. It ignores pretty much all current governance and community consensus processes everywhere. Not even John Perry Barlow believed his own quote applied to all things all the time.

The IETF is not the wild west. IANA is not the wild west. BGP speaking is not the wild west.

Re:Australia to introduce new laws to force media platforms ... by ohCh6zos on Saturday November 27, 2021 @11:23PM (#29366140)
If no part of the world is away from government reach we still have a lot of work to do. "The Net Interprets Censorship As Damage and Routes Around It".
Re:Australia to introduce new laws to force media platforms ... by ggm on Saturday November 27, 2021 @11:28PM (#29366160)
How does this enhance the argument regarding Australian anti trolling laws? Read one way it says "they'll fail" so why care...
Re:Australia to introduce new laws to force media platforms ... by ohCh6zos on Saturday November 27, 2021 @11:32PM (#29366168)
Oh, I always interpreted as as a guiding principle for system design.