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Re:Apple stopped sales in Turkey after the lira crashed 15% ... by ryanlol on Saturday November 27, 2021 @05:22PM (#29364185)
Any important person can get red-carpet immigration treatment, why exactly does this particular case stink?
Re:Apple stopped sales in Turkey after the lira crashed 15% ... by mrtksn on Saturday November 27, 2021 @05:31PM (#29364255)
Well, for once the CIA agent Graham Fuller[0] actively supported Gulen's green card application[1]. I don't know if Gulen was a CIA himself but there are ample clues that he is at least involved with the US government. CIA has a rich history of pulling such operations. That's Fascinating read actually.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_E._Fuller

[1] https://www.politico.eu/article/graham-fuller-turke-issues-a...

Re:Apple stopped sales in Turkey after the lira crashed 15% ... by ryanlol on Saturday November 27, 2021 @05:43PM (#29364336)
I don’t think this really supports the original claim.

E: s/your/the/

Re:Apple stopped sales in Turkey after the lira crashed 15% ... by fmajid on Sunday November 28, 2021 @05:29AM (#29367791)
He was given a green card as a "prominent educator" despite not having a degree himself. Anyone who's been through the US immigration wringer knows the process is very strict, and prima facie Gülen was not eligible.

The only similar case that springs to mind is the maid of the former Indian vice-consul in NY's maid:

https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/world/maids-fami...

That also stinks to high heaven, and created a serious diplomatic incident with India.

Re:Apple stopped sales in Turkey after the lira crashed 15% ... by mrtksn on Saturday November 27, 2021 @05:45PM (#29364363)
What's my original claim?
Re:Apple stopped sales in Turkey after the lira crashed 15% ... by ryanlol on Saturday November 27, 2021 @05:56PM (#29364449)
“The way Fethullah Gülen got red-carpet immigration treatment in the US stinks to high heaven”
Re:Apple stopped sales in Turkey after the lira crashed 15% ... by mrtksn on Saturday November 27, 2021 @06:01PM (#29364466)
That's not me. You can tell by the way the letters in the username are arranged. My point is that the guy behind the coup has known ties to the CIA and in my opinion that stinks. Of course I wouldn't know if or what role CIA had in the coup but I find it fair to ask the questions due to the established links.
Re:Apple stopped sales in Turkey after the lira crashed 15% ... by ryanlol on Saturday November 27, 2021 @06:05PM (#29364503)
My mistake, I was browsing through the user page so I didn’t see the name of the user I originally replied to.

Sorry.

However, I bet someone like Gülen would get red carpet immigration treatment even if the CIA wasn’t involved. I don’t necessarily doubt CIA involvement, I just doubt that his immigration treatment is indicative of anything.

Re:Apple stopped sales in Turkey after the lira crashed 15% ... by mrtksn on Saturday November 27, 2021 @06:06PM (#29364512)
No worries!

> However, I bet someone like Gülen would get red carpet immigration treatment even if the CIA wasn’t involved

I guess we will never know that because CIA is indeed involved and we can't have an alternative reality :)