I have had issues in every car I have ever had, including luxury German and Japanese brands. Over an 8 year period, on a car that broke so much new technical ground and with a level of support that is so absolutely fantastic, I consider the issues I had to be not significant, detracting very little from my overall extraordinary experience.

"But Honda know a lot about making cars. Tesla tried to disrupt the entire process. This is where hubris gets you "

Can you clarify why disrupting the process is hubris? There has been many historical examples of outsiders coming in and improving old processes in many fields. Why is it hubris to disrupt the car manufacturing processes?

1. I am a tech guy who builds computer systems

2. I can comppletely retool car making,

* from base principals

* because I am very smart (see 1.)

That is hubris

Does not always fail. Usually does. Betting on hubris to fail is probably a good strategy (I reckon - I do not know)

It is very common for disruption to happen with cross disciplines. It seems to me that it worked in this case with a software dev going into the auto industry.

> But Honda know a lot about making cars. Tesla tried to disrupt the entire process. This is where hubris gets you

Tesla did disrupt the entire process and where they are now is 5 years ahead of every single major manufacturer in EVs, including Honda. Honda, Toyota, VW, GM are in for an ocean of pain as we transition to EVs and China floods the market with cheap, quality offerings. Their complacency is exactly the wrong kind of hubris and they will be luck to end the decade as major manufacturers.