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Re:CyanogenMod 7 On the HP TouchPad by j_col on Monday August 29, 2011 @03:55AM (#2936358)
> IMO, webOS is a superior OS to Android.

+1. I really don't understand why there is so much effort to install non-tablet OSs on a tablet with a lauded tablet-optimized OS already installed....

Re:CyanogenMod 7 On the HP TouchPad by aw3c2 on Monday August 29, 2011 @06:05AM (#2936618)
Applications!

And also probably the touch handling? From what I heard the Touchpad was terrible at eg straight line scrolling out of the box.

Re:CyanogenMod 7 On the HP TouchPad by j_col on Monday August 29, 2011 @07:06AM (#2936734)
There are loads of tablet-optimized applications available for Touchpad. They are differentiated from the non-tablet versions in the app store with the word "Touchpad" displayed clearly beside them. Furthermore, the developers themselves often append "HD" to the end of their existing application names to indicate that the "High Definition" version is designed to make use of the higher resolution on the tablet vs. the phones.

I have my Touchpad just two days, and already have tablet-optimised clients installed for Twitter, Facebook, Box.net, an excellent video 3rd party video player for divx, and a comic book reader for reading my .cbr files. Combined with an excellent e-mail client and a Webkit web browser, I'm covered for my media and web browser needs.

The only thing missing right now is document editing, but that is due in an OTA update from HP which they have promised to deliver shortly (let’s hope they stick to these promises in order to try to restore some confidence in this very shaken webOS community).

So frankly as an owner of both a pre3 and a Touchpad, the whole "but webOS does not have enough apps" argument just does not ring true for me. If I want to do real work, I’ll fire up my PC. But as a web and media tablet, the Touchpad has me covered and then some.

Re:CyanogenMod 7 On the HP TouchPad by watty on Monday August 29, 2011 @07:27AM (#2936777)
Just because you only use your tablet for media and web browsing doesn't mean that everyone does. I like to play games on mine and the game market is embarrassingly small and will not be growing due to the discontinuation of the Touchpad. The cool thing about Android/iOS is that you can find an app for literally anything. I don't feel that way when browsing the HP market.
Re:CyanogenMod 7 On the HP TouchPad by j_col on Monday August 29, 2011 @07:54AM (#2936832)
I love to play games too, but on my PC. I like the accuracy of a mouse and the freedom of a keyboard that I can map actions to. The thoughts of playing games with a touch screen and accelerometer is horrifying for me (at least for the games I'm interested in playing), but as you say some people are interested in this, but some people (like me) are not.
Re:CyanogenMod 7 On the HP TouchPad by watty on Monday August 29, 2011 @09:46AM (#2937137)
Even ignoring the small gaming catageory the market is still incomplete. As I stated before, being unable to find an app doesn't even cross my mind on Android or iOS. One of the first things I searched for was a Spotify client which doesn't exist. What amplifies this is that WebOS is (basically) dead and app devs have moved elsewhere. What happens in 2 years APIS change? How many of the existing WebOs apps will become nonfunctional?
Re:CyanogenMod 7 On the HP TouchPad by j_col on Tuesday August 30, 2011 @04:27AM (#2940583)
> What amplifies this is that WebOS is (basically) dead and app devs have moved elsewhere. What happens in 2 years APIS change? How many of the existing WebOs apps will become nonfunctional?

Actually, webOS app devs are reporting increased sales due to the massive increase in webOS devices out there, due to the firesale. With regard to the long-term future and your point about APIs changing that webOS is using, I have thought about this and three things give me hope for the platform:

1. HP have stated publically that they will continue to develop webOS and the app store.

2. HP are looking for a hardware partner, and rumours are already emerging that Samsung may be that partner (webOS + Samsung hardare = win for me).

3. There are now hundreds of thousands of webOS devices out there now since the firesale. The majority of those new users are not going to install a replacement for webOS, lets be honest most people are not that technical. This new market that HP has created with the firesale will be nice to sell into for app devs and hardware makers alike.

When I'm looking for a replacement for my Pre3 and Touchpad in 1-2 years, I'm going to look at webOS devices first because that is where my cloud profile and app purchases live. If I have to jump ship to another platform because webOS really does die in the next 1-2 years, then that is a small risk that I am happy to take, especially if the initial investment for a 10" is only a hundred bucks.

Re:CyanogenMod 7 On the HP TouchPad by aw3c2 on Monday August 29, 2011 @10:28AM (#2937269)
at least for the games I'm interested in playing

is the essence of what you are saying. I thought it was silly to play on a tablet but then a friend showed me games like Fruit Ninja. And then we sat opposite eachother and played what I would call "modern boardgames" on it, silly arcade stuff, turn based strategy, etc. It was a revelation.

Re:CyanogenMod 7 On the HP TouchPad by dpio on Monday August 29, 2011 @02:13PM (#2938167)
You own a Pre 3? Ack, so jealous.
Re:CyanogenMod 7 On the HP TouchPad by angryasian on Monday August 29, 2011 @04:22AM (#2936411)
not trolling but I don't see how webos a tablet os is different from android 2.3. The launchers (depending on which one you install with android ) serve the same purpose displaying your apps but on android you can at least use your home screens and customize.

edit:asking a legit question, from a user experience pov.. tablet optimized os, in this case webos works in the same way as Android 2.3. What makes webos specifically tablet optimized. Just asking for clarification if he means the stock apps are optimized for tablet, the only ones making any difference would be email and calendar. On webos non tablet optimized apps show up as cards in the middle of the screen ( Pandora), its terrible.. where as on Android at least they will stretch.

Re:CyanogenMod 7 On the HP TouchPad by yardie on Monday August 29, 2011 @05:23AM (#2936534)
You raise a good point but what most people don't realize is that tablets and phone use is completely orthogonal. You can run a phone application on a tablet but this would be the least optimal solution.

Phones give you one view and only that view. You open an application and get a list, you click an item in the list and you get the details, you click on an item in the details and you are taken to a completely different window. Need to change a preference? Click a link and you are presented with a list of preferences. Your application is no longer there (it is, but you can't see it).

A real tablet application can give you multiple views, you aren't booted from that view to change the preference. And in the case of Android those views are SW-rendered. Scrolling a very long list skips and stutters as more information needs to be loaded into framebuffer.

Stretching is just a hack, instead of being more informative its the same 480x320 information blown up to scale.

Re:CyanogenMod 7 On the HP TouchPad by fpgeek on Monday August 29, 2011 @07:02AM (#2936726)
Not necessarily. Plenty of Android apps are written with flexible layouts, so they aren't stretched. They may not give you more views than the phone version, but they can still use the larger screen to display more information. One simple example of this is Firefox (which hasn't really started on their tablet version yet), but there are others.
Re:CyanogenMod 7 On the HP TouchPad by watty on Monday August 29, 2011 @07:28AM (#2936778)
The goal is to run Android tablet versions - these are just the first steps to make that happen.