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Re:Ask HN: What are the best-designed things you've ever used? by ISL on Friday November 26, 2021 @08:56PM (#29356476)
Agreed. It's real tempting to answer, "indoor plumbing". It's really nice to flip a lever and get clean, safe water. It's real good not to need to stroll to the outhouse, too.
Re:Ask HN: What are the best-designed things you've ever used? by muzani on Friday November 26, 2021 @09:56PM (#29356884)
Coming from a developing country, I was very impressed that you could get drinking water straight from the tap in some countries. My wife, a civil engineer, couldn't believe it either. There's just so much complexity involved in it, including storage, which can have rats and rust.

Normally we just filter the stuff between the tap and cup. And as a kid, we had to boil and store it, and just learned to tolerate the metallic/dirt taste at times. This was when soda peaked.

Re:Ask HN: What are the best-designed things you've ever used? by mortenjorck on Friday November 26, 2021 @10:16PM (#29357023)
> This was when soda peaked.

Somehow I never put the international explosion of Coke and Pepsi in this context. The things late-20th century Americans took for granted!

Re:Ask HN: What are the best-designed things you've ever used? by noduerme on Saturday November 27, 2021 @12:44AM (#29357804)
A local I knew in Mexico told me that the water in his town was safe to drink, and that the theory of unsafe tap water was a disinformation campaign by gringos/Coca-Cola. Spoiler: Was not safe to drink the water.
Re:Ask HN: What are the best-designed things you've ever used? by poglet on Friday November 26, 2021 @09:14PM (#29356609)
Mostly unrelated but I would like to be able to set the temperate and water pressure for my shower so I can just enter and press a single button. This would also be great for those showers where you can never get the water temperature or pressure right so you have to keep adjusting it.

I would also like to run a bath by doing the same thing, and having the water stop when it's at the right level. Maybe there could be a heating element that keeps the water at the right temperature so you don't have to occasionally top it up with hot water.

I'm sure this already exists but I've never seen it anywhere.

Re:Ask HN: What are the best-designed things you've ever used? by jerkstate on Friday November 26, 2021 @09:39PM (#29356755)
Thermal regulating shower/bath faucets are relatively common: https://www.deltafaucet.com/design-innovation/innovations/sh...

I have one in my master shower and it's fantastic. Of course, the water starts out cold (because the water in the hot water pipes are cold) but once it's up to temperature, it's very consistent, even if you have a toilet flush in your house which would reduce the pressure of cold.

Re:Ask HN: What are the best-designed things you've ever used? by quadrifoliate on Friday November 26, 2021 @09:52PM (#29356855)
> Of course, the water starts out cold (because the water in the hot water pipes are cold)

No, this should be considered a failure condition for a constant temperature shower. I don't care how they do it, just bleed the cold water into a separate pipe off to the side or something.

We have sent people into space, I want actual uniform temperature water.

Re:Ask HN: What are the best-designed things you've ever used? by jerkstate on Friday November 26, 2021 @10:12PM (#29357002)
ah, you want this, which also exists: https://www.finehomebuilding.com/2013/03/07/hot-water-circul...

the way I do it is just turn the shower on about 30 seconds before I get in, which works the same with half the piping and less energy loss due to circulating hot water (but some water loss)

Re:Ask HN: What are the best-designed things you've ever used? by z2 on Friday November 26, 2021 @11:38PM (#29357474)
I've seen a few apartments in Asia have small electric water heaters right before the faucet. They provide instant hot water until the main boiler's hot water arrives.
Re:Ask HN: What are the best-designed things you've ever used? by akjssdk on Saturday November 27, 2021 @03:48AM (#29358688)
This is fairly common in newish kitchens in the Netherlands too, especially if the kitchen is far away from the boiler. Sometimes even with a boiling water tap, so you don't even need a kettle anymore.
Re:Ask HN: What are the best-designed things you've ever used? by kortilla on Saturday November 27, 2021 @04:58AM (#29358987)
A toilet flush should either:

- not drop the pressure of the cold water at all

- drop both the hot and the cold equally (due to house input being limited)

The hot water is fed by the same input pressure as the cold, so they are the same pressure system. A temperature drop on a toilet flush is a pretty big fuckup by the plumber in the bathroom.

Re:Ask HN: What are the best-designed things you've ever used? by theaeolist on Saturday November 27, 2021 @04:37AM (#29358913)
Everything about fancy hotel bathrooms is a usability nightmare. Sometimes there are two showers (hand-held and ceiling-mounted) operated by a single lever which sets temperature, pressure, and which of the two showers is active. The risk of giving yourself a too hot or too cold burst is significant. I usually cower into a corner while sloooooowly messing with that lever.

For an extra bonus: You usually have three identical looking small bottles with 'shampoo', 'conditioner', and 'shower gel' only distinguished by a tiny label, something like black-on-brown or yellow-on-white. Good luck if you are wearing glasses.

Re:Ask HN: What are the best-designed things you've ever used? by rgreasons on Saturday November 27, 2021 @08:59AM (#29360184)
Stayed at a hotel with a faucet with some of the features you described - button-push and straightforward temperature control - and it was one of the best shower experiences I’ve ever had. Would be putting one of these in my own master bathroom if it wasn’t so expensive.

https://www.hansgrohe-usa.com/articledetail-showerselect-the...

Re:Ask HN: What are the best-designed things you've ever used? by maccard on Saturday November 27, 2021 @05:54AM (#29359210)
Thermostatic mixer showers are very common (in the UK at least) and are very affordable (sub $100) and as reliable as your hot water supply. My understanding is that water pressure is much harder to control for; there's so many variables that you just can't do anything about, and without installing a giant tank and a pump if your pressure is low it's always going to be low.