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Re:EU tech sector fights for a Level Playing Field with Micr... by agust on Friday November 26, 2021 @05:28PM (#29354894)
The point is not that the people aware of the situation can avoid using these services, the point is that Microsoft (just like Apple and Google) is abusing its control over the OS to entice millions of people to use their own services. This is not an even market, competition is distorted. How could better competitors emerge in such situation? As if the unlimited fundings these companies have was not enough.
Re:EU tech sector fights for a Level Playing Field with Micr... by kkjjkgjjgg on Friday November 26, 2021 @06:10PM (#29355249)
Why shouldn't a company promote its own products? It is not "abuse of control", that is such bullshit. Also I have been using Windows for decades and never touched MS Office or Teams. It's not that hard.
Re:EU tech sector fights for a Level Playing Field with Micr... by ClumsyPilot on Friday November 26, 2021 @09:32PM (#29356718)
Why shouldn't companies agree to work together for mutual benefit, like tech companies agreeing to hold down wages, like they did recently. Or is that too 'free market'?
Re:EU tech sector fights for a Level Playing Field with Micr... by kkjjkgjjgg on Friday November 26, 2021 @09:45PM (#29356800)
Fine by me, actually. What exactly is the rationale for making disallowing such a thing? Unions are doing the same thing, btw.
Re:EU tech sector fights for a Level Playing Field with Micr... by ClumsyPilot on Friday November 26, 2021 @10:08PM (#29356968)
You seem to be unfamiliar with the absolute basics of cartels, collusion and antitrust law.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust...

Re:EU tech sector fights for a Level Playing Field with Micr... by kkjjkgjjgg on Saturday November 27, 2021 @05:31AM (#29359106)
What is the point of your comment? I am aware that there were agreements between the companies. My question was what is the rationale behind making such a thing illegal. Your link doesn't answer that question.
Re:EU tech sector fights for a Level Playing Field with Micr... by ClumsyPilot on Saturday November 27, 2021 @08:43AM (#29360083)
Its a bit like asking why stabbings are illegal everywhere, from Switzerland to Vietnam.

Because that's nor a market, that mafia rule.

Re:EU tech sector fights for a Level Playing Field with Micr... by kkjjkgjjgg on Saturday November 27, 2021 @09:07AM (#29360240)
What the fuck no it is not the same. Stabbings are murder. At the very least you can argue with Kant's imperative that you shouldn't do what you don't want others to do to you. It seems to me agreeing not to poach other companies employees is more in the line with Kant's imperative. If anything, poaching other companies employees would be more like murder. Society seems to already have realized that, that is why they call it "poaching".
Re:EU tech sector fights for a Level Playing Field with Micr... by ClumsyPilot on Saturday November 27, 2021 @05:31PM (#29364252)
"poaching other companies employees would be more like murder."

If you consider improving someone's quality of life by offering better salary to be 'like murder', and do not recognise that cartels, illegal in every civilised nation, are bad for the economy, then I cannot fathom what I could possibly write to get through to you

Re:EU tech sector fights for a Level Playing Field with Micr... by kkjjkgjjgg on Sunday November 28, 2021 @05:36AM (#29367833)
Not all economists agree that cartels are bad. Also they are usually about prices for selling stuff, not for buying stuff (as in buying employees). Just because companies have agreements doesn't make it a cartel. It would be stupid if companies wouldn't be allowed to have agreements.

And as mentioned before, workers cartels (unions) seem to be legal in most "civilized" places.

Or think about another example: poaching somebodies wife. That also seems to be frowned upon in many places. Yet, it is just an agreement that nobody should make somebody else's wife a better offer.

People tend to forget with all those rules that they could also be on the receiving end of things. You may not be a worker forever, maybe one of these days you want to become independent and run your own company. It would be a shame if people effectively weren't allowed to do so anymore.

Re:EU tech sector fights for a Level Playing Field with Micr... by buttercraft on Thursday December 02, 2021 @06:32PM (#29424497)
This is cartoonishly unreal... like it was written by an evil villain.
Re:EU tech sector fights for a Level Playing Field with Micr... by maccolgan on Saturday November 27, 2021 @07:24AM (#29359636)
Wait until you realize unions sometimes are legalized cartels of employees.