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Re:Heavily mutated coronavirus variant puts scientists on alert by polote on Thursday November 25, 2021 @05:40PM (#29345669)
We still don't know if Delta was much more transmissible than Alpha actually. We have only observed that Delta spread faster than Alpha at some point in time.

Not only have happy holiday, but also have happy return to normal. Most adults are vaxxed, if we don't remove restrictions now we will never remove them.

Re:Heavily mutated coronavirus variant puts scientists on alert by ummonk on Thursday November 25, 2021 @05:51PM (#29345772)
Fully agree with your second paragraph but your first paragraph is nonsense.

We have evidence that Delta has a much larger viral load and that it has outcompeted the Alpha variant everywhere in the world. You have to be in total denial to pretend the Delta variant might have been no more transmissible than Alpha.

Re:Heavily mutated coronavirus variant puts scientists on alert by polote on Thursday November 25, 2021 @05:56PM (#29345800)
I said it spread faster at one point in time, what is different than what you said?

Imagine delta and alpha are both introduced in a naive population at the exact same time. Which one will spread faster? No one has a clue

Re:Heavily mutated coronavirus variant puts scientists on alert by contravariant on Thursday November 25, 2021 @06:02PM (#29345845)
You've seemingly reduced 'Delta is more transmissible' to its most meaningless interpretation.

A large (mostly) unvaccinated and uninfected population has been exposed to both variants and the delta variant won out, what more proof do you want?

Re:Heavily mutated coronavirus variant puts scientists on alert by chimprich on Thursday November 25, 2021 @06:05PM (#29345860)
Delta will spread faster. We know this from seeing it spread in countries that have low vaccination rates and easily outcompete other variants. This can also be seen in laboratory experiments.
Re:Heavily mutated coronavirus variant puts scientists on alert by tigershark on Thursday November 25, 2021 @05:59PM (#29345820)
Delta since it outcompeted Alpha everywhere in the world.
Re:Heavily mutated coronavirus variant puts scientists on alert by rch on Thursday November 25, 2021 @05:49PM (#29345752)
I don't think it can be called normal when hospitals are near capacity in some states (e.g. CO).
Re:Heavily mutated coronavirus variant puts scientists on alert by ummonk on Thursday November 25, 2021 @05:52PM (#29345781)
ICUs being near capacity is actually very normal, especially during flu season.
Re:Heavily mutated coronavirus variant puts scientists on alert by rch on Thursday November 25, 2021 @06:03PM (#29345853)
Zero availability in half the state?
Re:Heavily mutated coronavirus variant puts scientists on alert by ummonk on Thursday November 25, 2021 @06:34PM (#29346058)
Yeah that's definitely worse than normal. Though not wildly out of the norm either. A significant fraction typically are diverting to ICUs at other hospitals, but normally not half the hospitals.