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Re:The new luxury vacation: being dumped in the middle of no... by bitxbitxbitcoin on Thursday November 25, 2021 @02:37PM (#29344273)
I consider myself a healthy adult and I think 2 days for 18 miles sounds commendable.

The amount of elevation change does matter, too. I am talking about both the difference between the trip elevation and his normal living elevation as well as the total elevation change within those 18 miles.

Re:The new luxury vacation: being dumped in the middle of no... by Ratalala on Thursday November 25, 2021 @05:51PM (#29345774)
Everything is in the elevation. I'm rather fit, used to be in the army nearly ten years ago. These days I hike now and then. Last weekend I went on a wee tip, 25 km and 1400 m elevation; it took me 9 hours, not including my lunch break. Only carrying water for the day, the said lunch, dry clothes and a bit of gear ; probably a 10 kg pack. Mild weather and decent track. On flat ground, I would have halved that time.
Re:The new luxury vacation: being dumped in the middle of no... by NikolaeVarius on Thursday November 25, 2021 @02:42PM (#29344312)
The Atlas mountains doesn't even break 14k feet, and there is no mention of an attempt to summit.

If you're not even carrying your own food/water 18 miles should be a piece of cake.

Re:The new luxury vacation: being dumped in the middle of no... by paganel on Thursday November 25, 2021 @03:19PM (#29344648)
18 miles is ~30 km (for us, people who use the other measuring system), which, computed roughly, gives me a 6-7 hours walk. Yes, it's expected of a person who goes on trips regularly to see that as a piece of cake but for us, town folks, it might not be that easy, in any case, not a piece of cake.
Re:The new luxury vacation: being dumped in the middle of no... by gambiting on Thursday November 25, 2021 @04:22PM (#29345113)
Agreed, I'd consider myself a very passionate walker but 10-15km a day in hilly terrain is pushing it for me. 30km....maybe on flat terrain.
Re:The new luxury vacation: being dumped in the middle of no... by mcny on Thursday November 25, 2021 @07:20PM (#29346347)
Of course. I walked four miles in an hour and half for this game called pikmin something but it was in a flat, suburban sidewalk in Colorado. I think most people can easily walk a mile every half hour all day under these conditions. Probably will even be fun if you have someone to talk to along the way.

A trail on a hilly terrain is a completely different story.

Re:The new luxury vacation: being dumped in the middle of no... by version_five on Thursday November 25, 2021 @06:08PM (#29345881)
Nine miles of hiking per day is not gruelling but it's enough to feel like you did something.

I did half-dome in Yosemite many years ago, and if I remember it's about 7 miles one-way with ~4000-5000 feet of elevation change. But the trail is mostly quite good, and it's as much as I'd want to hike in a day.

For a two day trip, especially if the trail is rough, 18 miles sounds about right.