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Re:Ask HN: How did you learn math notation? by Jensson on Thursday November 25, 2021 @01:53PM (#29343888)
> CS are just better about this, and I can only explain it as a part of the culture and tradition.

CS professors writes just as incomprehensible math as everyone else, as you can see many here brings up examples of CS professors writing incomprehensible math in their papers.

Re:Ask HN: How did you learn math notation? by kazinator on Thursday November 25, 2021 @02:47PM (#29344370)
Moreover, you might think that Lisp notation would improve it, but CS papers using S-expressions are just as incomprehensible, even to a seasoned Lisp programmer.

Math notations are two-dimensional and don't suffer very badly from structural ambiguities, so that actually fixes almost nothing.

The problem in unfamiliar math notations is rarely the chunking of which clump is a child of which clump.

E.g say that some paper uses, say, angle brackets, with some deep meaning that you can learn about if you recurse three levels down in the list of references.

I'm not confused that in <Ap>, the Ap thing is a child of the angle brackets; and calling it (frob (A p)) doesn't help much in this regard.

However, at least you can search literature for the word frob more easily than for angle brackets.

Re:Ask HN: How did you learn math notation? by cabalamat on Friday November 26, 2021 @05:14AM (#29348925)
>I'm not confused that in <Ap>, the Ap thing is a child of the angle brackets; and calling it (frob (A p)) doesn't help much in this regard. However, at least you can search literature for the word frob more easily than for angle brackets.

Also it's perhaps more likely to occur to the person using the frob notation that maybe they should define frob somwewhere.

Re:Ask HN: How did you learn math notation? by Hermitian909 on Friday November 26, 2021 @01:44PM (#29352834)
I think you can easily pick examples from any field of terribly written papers but I'm attempting to describe my experience of interacting with both disciplines over many years; reading many books and papers from both.