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Re:Buying an ebike by emodendroket on Thursday November 25, 2021 @02:53AM (#29339178)
The infrastructure can be retrofitted, but the fact that cities were designed to be sprawling under the assumption that people would drive is a bit knottier to work out.
Re:Buying an ebike by rich_sasha on Thursday November 25, 2021 @04:24AM (#29339688)
True. But if you could get 90% of non-work stuff a cycle ride away (groceries, childcare, post office etc) that’s already a big one.

London, another massive sprawl, opened what’s called “cycling superhighways”. These are on disused railway tracks, covered with high quality tarmac. Wide, straight, lit, off-road, bike-only trails taking you around the city (into the centre in particular).

I wouldn’t call London cycle-friendly but these really make long commutes feasible. A friend of mine, no exercise freak, happily cycles 40 mins each way on one of those.

Re:Buying an ebike by justincormack on Thursday November 25, 2021 @06:01AM (#29340239)
They are not disused rail tracks, they are on the edge if roads.
Re:Buying an ebike by dncornholio on Thursday November 25, 2021 @05:53AM (#29340175)
Exactly what happened in EU. Many EU cities in the world were designed for cars. So it can be done.
Re:Buying an ebike by kashug on Thursday November 25, 2021 @06:52AM (#29340544)
But zoning is also part of the issue. Residental areas many places in NA is often strictly residental - designed around that people can just take the car to go grocery shopping.

In europe it is more common that you have things like a supermarket in walkable distance (or atleast short trip on a bike).

Re:Buying an ebike by anthony_barker on Thursday November 25, 2021 @04:34AM (#29339744)
Tokyo sprawls as do many chinese cities but people bike to the train