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Re:Wall Street grudgingly allows remote work as bankers dig in by actually_a_dog on Wednesday November 24, 2021 @06:11PM (#29336303)
I'll make whichever argument gets me the most money in a salary negotiation.
Re:Wall Street grudgingly allows remote work as bankers dig in by isbvhodnvemrwvn on Wednesday November 24, 2021 @06:30PM (#29336460)
Which is short sighted if you value your time at all. Spending an hour more a day commuting is directly decreasing the value of your life.
Re:Wall Street grudgingly allows remote work as bankers dig in by actually_a_dog on Wednesday November 24, 2021 @06:36PM (#29336523)
You miss my point, then. If I have to spend that extra hour, I will argue that it needs to be compensated. If I get to WFH, I may argue that I'm paying for dedicated office space at home and that the value of my work is the same here as in the office.
Re:Wall Street grudgingly allows remote work as bankers dig in by seedless-sensat on Wednesday November 24, 2021 @09:45PM (#29337719)
I cycle into my office every day, 1h round-trip. It certainly increases my quality of life and I'm glad I had the choice (not requirement) to return
Re:Wall Street grudgingly allows remote work as bankers dig in by jjk166 on Wednesday November 24, 2021 @10:19PM (#29337898)
If you didn't have to commute, you'd have an extra hour per day to cycle wherever you wanted instead of having to specifically bike that path. Hell you could still bike that path if that's what you like. In the absolute best case scenario, commuting is breakeven, but realistically you are objectively worse off for it.
Re:Wall Street grudgingly allows remote work as bankers dig in by mint2 on Wednesday November 24, 2021 @10:37PM (#29338008)
Except that’s not how it often works. sometimes one needs a little motivation to keep up a routine.
Re:Wall Street grudgingly allows remote work as bankers dig in by jjk166 on Thursday November 25, 2021 @03:57AM (#29339526)
That is not the purpose of a commute, nor is a commute required to accomplish that goal. Think of all the other routines you maintain just fine without having to worry about getting fired from your job if you don't want to one day. If this was really the thing you wanted to do most, you'd find the motivation on your own just as you do with all the other things. If you need to be forced to do something, even if you derive some benefit, it's still not what you want. If I chase you with a machete, you may derive some benefit from being highly motivated to run, but that doesn't mean you should be thanking me.

Life is full of objectively bad things that nevertheless have a silver lining. It's good to look on the bright side when faced with problems you can not change, but it's important not to be fooled into thinking that these things aren't problems, especially when they are within your power to fix. That's how people wind up justifying all sorts of terrible situations like abusive relationships and terrible jobs.

Re:Wall Street grudgingly allows remote work as bankers dig in by cercatrova on Thursday November 25, 2021 @10:07AM (#29341965)
Sure but I don't need a commute to enforce a routine for me. And yours is a very specific example, you bike to work, which means you 1. Like biking, and 2. Your workplace is close enough to your house to allow you to bike. I for example like to weight lift and I live quite far from work. I keep a routine for myself which a commute would not be conducive to.
Re:Wall Street grudgingly allows remote work as bankers dig in by Steltek on Thursday November 25, 2021 @05:21PM (#29345512)
When this came up before, I was reminded of this video:

https://youtu.be/vMed1qceJ_Q

I love using a bike to get around and do all of my daily activities. But I hate just riding around in circles for no purpose other than exercise or getting out of the house.

Re:Wall Street grudgingly allows remote work as bankers dig in by crisper78 on Wednesday November 24, 2021 @07:17PM (#29336829)
it increases the value of my life and many others. Stay home pretty please, I am sure you will be very successful by switching jobs every few months!