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Re:U.S. to release oil from reserves in coordination with ot... by jf22 on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @11:08AM (#29319468)
The point is that if they were smaller cars they'd get even better MPG.
Re:U.S. to release oil from reserves in coordination with ot... by Spivak on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @11:15AM (#29319555)
And be a less useful vehicles for doing the kinds of things that most people ask of them, carrying stuff that doesn't fit in a standard sized trunk like furniture and appliances.

All those sedans would be way more fuel efficient if they were motorcycles too, but I don't think you'd agree that they're comparable.

Re:U.S. to release oil from reserves in coordination with ot... by _huayra_ on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @11:38AM (#29319884)
Do most people ask that their vehicle carry furniture and appliances on a regular basis?

Honestly any time I have a larger item either being hauled to my place or away from it, it's someone else's vehicle, e.g. delivery of a new appliance or pricing it to move quickly on craigslist so someone comes and takes it away.

Re:U.S. to release oil from reserves in coordination with ot... by macksd on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @11:58AM (#29320166)
Someone from Craigslist comes and takes it away? On what, their back?
Re:U.S. to release oil from reserves in coordination with ot... by Spivak on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @11:51AM (#29320079)
So your solution to not needing to move things is for other people with suitable vehicles to come and move things? How is that gonna work when everyone has a sedan?

It's true for everyone I know who has children and owns a house in the burbs. The cost of taking delivery from everything from TVs, lawn mowers, dirt, mulch, Costco trips, adds up and SUVs aren't really more expensive than sedans.

Like I get you, I live a very privileged urban apartment dweller life and can afford to just pay for people to move things for me the few times I need it but renting tools and labor is expensive for a family.

Re:U.S. to release oil from reserves in coordination with ot... by Pet_Ant on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @02:13PM (#29321941)
> How is that gonna work when everyone has a sedan?

People who specialise in it? Like moving vans or toe trucks?

> but renting tools and labor is expensive for a family.

Compared to the extra cost of the vehicle and gas? I mean how often do you buy new furniture? People ask how I manage without a car: simple I bus or take a cab. "cabs are expensive" per trip sure... but per year? Nothing compared to the cost of car ownership. If big cars aren't false economy yet, then they will be once we start paying for our carbon. Most of us could get around 90% of the time in a coupe.

Re:U.S. to release oil from reserves in coordination with ot... by Spivak on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @03:21PM (#29322887)
It's not different. That's the whole point.

    2020 Honda Accord: $28k total cost of ownership [1] 30/37 mpg 282 g/m emissions rating [3]

    2020 Honda CR-V: $28k total cost of ownership [2] 28/34 mpg 294 g/m emissions rating [3]
[1] https://www.edmunds.com/honda/accord/2020/cost-to-own/?style...

[2] https://www.edmunds.com/honda/cr-v/2020/cost-to-own/?style=4...

[3] https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=42071&...

According to [3] the yearly fuel cost difference is $50. For reference on the emissions numbers a 2010 H3 Hummer is 555g/m.

Re:U.S. to release oil from reserves in coordination with ot... by jf22 on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @01:38PM (#29321436)
Society survived without SUVs. We have everything delivered in an instant.

We don't need all this crap, and we don't need SUVs to carry it around.

Re:U.S. to release oil from reserves in coordination with ot... by Spivak on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @01:51PM (#29321630)
Yeah, we had minivans, station wagons, and small pickup trucks. Then we had what are now called "full-size" SUVs. Midsize SUVs today are just slightly bigger cars.
Re:U.S. to release oil from reserves in coordination with ot... by dahfizz on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @11:47AM (#29320037)
The point is that crossover/SUVs get good enough MPG. Fuel economy is not the only, or even the primary, consideration when buying a car.
Re:U.S. to release oil from reserves in coordination with ot... by philistine on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @03:18PM (#29322843)
If the price of gas keeps rising at the same pace for the next seven years, it will be.