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Re:The World's Deadliest Thing by Helmut10001 on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @02:49AM (#29315541)
If you put your sealed fish in cold tap water, it will thaw in less than 15 Minutes. 15 Minutes is not enough for the bacteria to produce these toxins.
Re:The World's Deadliest Thing by glenstein on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @08:42AM (#29317661)
Right, that was going to be my question. Wouldn't botulism etc need a certain amount of time to grow? Is any normal use case of defrosting in a microwave long enough for that to happen? Is there a safe zone of X minutes, and then an unsafe zone of Y minutes where it gets dangerous?
Re:The World's Deadliest Thing by weaksauce on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @02:24PM (#29322084)
it takes days for the botulism to grow under a vacuum in your fridge depending on temp.(a proper fridge should be 35-40F but many are much higher than that. 50F takes 2 days or so to form)

https://www.riskyornot.co/episodes/34-thawing-frozen-fish-in...

Re:The World's Deadliest Thing by Helmut10001 on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @11:44PM (#29326996)
I know - I was referring to other bacteria in your fridge (such as Listeria etc.)(not in your fridge particularly).
Re:The World's Deadliest Thing by Helmut10001 on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @01:53PM (#29321661)
Fast defrosting in Microwave or sealed, in cold water, is at least better than some of the other suggestions, like poking the seal and slow defrosting over 24 hours in the fridge. In the fridge and without a seal, the effects of exposing fish to other bacteria are really difficult to control.