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Re:The World's Deadliest Thing by chadcmulligan on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @02:48AM (#29315533)
so does ham cured with celery also contain nitrites? I've been buying free range ham cured with celery because I thought it was free of nitrites.
Re:The World's Deadliest Thing by chongli on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @02:59AM (#29315601)
Celery extract contains a lot of nitrates and can be treated to produce nitrites as well [1]. The reason they use celery is to exploit a loophole in food labelling laws and avoid usage of the word nitrates due to their association with health risks.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celery_powder

Re:The World's Deadliest Thing by MertsA on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @04:36AM (#29316087)
If you read closely the ingredients don't list celery, they list "celery seed extract". They're extracting the nitrates, it's just a ploy to avoid having to list nitrates in the ingredients but still use it. Next to the statement saying "No added nitrates!" there will be a tiny asterisk adding "except those naturally present (and extracted and concentrated) in celery seeds."
Re:The World's Deadliest Thing by athenot on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @10:20AM (#29318804)
Similar trick with "no sugar added" in juices, but you can take grape or apple juice, evaporate a lot of the water till it forms a syrup, then add that syrup to juices and still be able to sell the result as "100% pure fruit juice, no sugar added".
Re:The World's Deadliest Thing by phonypc on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @01:23PM (#29321218)
No, adding concentrated juice definitely violates "no added sugar" labelling standards, at least as far as the FDA and Health Canada are concerned for sure. I assume in Europe as well.

Some juices are just naturally very high in sugar.

Re:The World's Deadliest Thing by d136o on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @02:53AM (#29315567)
I just listened to a podcast episode about this, basically celery cured just means “naturally found” nitrites… which are the same thing as artificial nitrites… they’re just nitrites. (Disclaimer: not a chemist)

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/stuff-you-should-know/...

Re:The World's Deadliest Thing by chadcmulligan on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @03:26AM (#29315746)
Well thats disappointing
Re:The World's Deadliest Thing by sdfghderwg on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @07:59AM (#29317240)
I always found it intriguing that some people can have the discipline to make big changes to their day to day routine based on some learned trivia, but don't have the discipline to actually learn the subject.
Re:The World's Deadliest Thing by ceejayoz on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @11:29AM (#29319739)
That's pretty uncharitable. Celery juice is used specifically because it's confusing and misleading - you shouldn't have to have a scientific degree to decode a nutrition label, but here we are.
Re:The World's Deadliest Thing by dkarl on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @11:40AM (#29319932)
Ah, the old, "I've sworn off carbs. I might give up sugar too at some point, but one thing at a time," said while eating falafel.

"Beans can't have protein. That doesn't make any sense. Protein is what meat has."

I have spoken to two different people with no connection between them who thought that beans had no carbs and no protein, they were "different," because carbs were grain things and protein was meat. I wouldn't normally judge people for ignorance, but both of those people used the terms "carb" and "protein" while expressing extensive and very strongly held beliefs about nutrition. They are not much different from anti-vaxxers in my book.

Re:The World's Deadliest Thing by sdfghderwg on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @01:12PM (#29321078)
You got the point.
Re:The World's Deadliest Thing by namdnay on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @04:20AM (#29315998)
some dired hams don't contain any nitrites. I know parma ham doesn't, for example
Re:The World's Deadliest Thing by ceejayoz on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @11:29AM (#29319749)
Yeah, genuine prosciutto is just salt and time.
Re:The World's Deadliest Thing by namdnay on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @03:26PM (#29322967)
And piggy
Re:The World's Deadliest Thing by ceejayoz on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @04:54PM (#29324055)
Well, yes. Heh.
Re:The World's Deadliest Thing by mdavis6890 on Wednesday November 24, 2021 @12:40PM (#29332701)
Why are you avoiding nitrites? As far as I can tell they are inert and safe.