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Re:Science upside for Starship by runarberg on Monday November 22, 2021 @02:06PM (#29310348)
Just to put it out there: An individual car owner is insignificant when talking about climate change. This is regardless of how the car is powered. A Tesla owner that owns stock in Shell and votes conservative is much more problematic then a non-voting F-150 owner that works paycheck to paycheck. However both of them are insignificant next to the Shell board of directors or the US government who bear the real responsibility here in prolonging climate inaction.

This is all just to say. A non-voting F-150 owner who talks shit about rich people going to space is actually not doing any damage while filling up his truck, next to that rich conservative voter that emits more greenhouse gas than the F-150 ever can ever hope in a singe space visit for his own amusement.

Re:Science upside for Starship by BuyMyBitcoins on Monday November 22, 2021 @09:39PM (#29314036)
>”…that rich conservative voter that emits more greenhouse gas than the F-150 ever can ever hope in a singe space visit for his own amusement.”

None of the space tourists so far have been particularly known for their conservative politics. Nor do I find space tourism to be some lauded thing in conservative circles.

Re:Science upside for Starship by maccolgan on Monday November 22, 2021 @02:25PM (#29310564)
>Tesla owner that owns stock in Shell and votes conservative is much more problematic then a non-voting F-150 owner that works paycheck to paycheck.

>rich conservative voter that emits more greenhouse gas than the F-150 ever can ever hope

Wow

Re:Science upside for Starship by smaddox on Monday November 22, 2021 @09:39PM (#29314038)
There are a few more F-150 drivers than there are Shell board members or rich conservative space tourists.
Re:Science upside for Starship by runarberg on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @10:22AM (#29318824)
Then blame the Ford executives which keep manufacturing and marketing these cars, not the drivers.
Re:Science upside for Starship by smaddox on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @03:32PM (#29323065)
So only executives and rich people should be held accountable? Exactly how rich must one be?
Re:Science upside for Starship by runarberg on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @05:31PM (#29324383)
I’m basically just shifting the responsibility from the consumer to the people with the power to influence said consumption. This is basically just extending the logic of “If everyone is making the same mistake, blaming every individual is futile. Perhaps the system should be altered in such a way which makes it harder for people to make this mistake in the first place”.

So to answer your question: “How rich”: Rich enough to own significant stock in polluting corporations.