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Re:Rust Moderation Team Resigns by dralley on Monday November 22, 2021 @10:58AM (#29307790)
...I think many people would disagree with you about Linux. And perhaps GCC as well.
Re:Rust Moderation Team Resigns by whimsicalism on Monday November 22, 2021 @11:08AM (#29307907)
Yeah it's comical because Linux has so obviously driven a lot of people away from kernel development. Tech is male-skewed, and OSS more so, but Linux kernel dev is even then still at the far end of the gender disparity spectrum.
Re:Rust Moderation Team Resigns by emptycan on Monday November 22, 2021 @04:47PM (#29311920)
> Yeah it's comical because Linux has so obviously driven a lot of people away from kernel development.

I hear this "a lot" very often, but then it seems to be from people who have no real interest in technical work of kernel/OS core development. Linux is not the only way to scratch your itch for interest in low-level system dev. Like, this is just personal experience, but I have heard this on the order of 50-100 times: someone parroting how toxic Linux kernel dev is because of drama they heard -- but then you kind of dig a little bit and see what kinds of software stuff interests them, what do they work on -- probably only once or twice has it been anything embedded, hardware related, close to the metal. I would need compelling evidence to change my opinion that most of the complainers have no interest in the work being done by the community they are complaining about -- and I am fully aware that a number of people have departed Linux development, but we are talking about a tiny number of the thousands of contributors over the years -- you can't please everyone.

The hobby OS, emulation and demo scene is a pretty good indicator for "natural"* gender breakdown. These tend to be tight, tiny communities or often lone wolves working on projects. It is male dominated. This can't be explained by any systemic or community gatekeeping - because there is no system nor any mandatory community for participation or distribution. Nothing prevents anyone from putting their work out there.

* I am not discounting there may be other systemic reasons that set up this condition - but it has to be societal conditions that are in place in early childhood -- something that happens a bit before one considers contributing to the Linux kernel.

Re:Rust Moderation Team Resigns by najtdale on Monday November 22, 2021 @07:49PM (#29313406)
Agree completly. I would add that not just they are not interested...they have nowhere near enough skills to do anything in the kernel / os development space
Re:Rust Moderation Team Resigns by whimsicalism on Monday November 22, 2021 @08:46PM (#29313734)
You know nothing about me and are just making wild inference and conjecture.
Re:Rust Moderation Team Resigns by blindmute on Monday November 22, 2021 @11:12PM (#29314521)
Are you aware of how many people have been driven away from Rust because of their community? I've never seen people talking about avoiding Linux even 1/10th as much as they talk about avoiding Rust. It's entirely due to the culture; developers don't like a culture in which a programming language needs a multi-member moderation team (who resigns because they can't punish people 100% of the time).
Re:Rust Moderation Team Resigns by throwaway2077 on Monday November 22, 2021 @12:11PM (#29308770)
>gender

sex - sure, but gender? we got plenty of females in OSS!

Re:Rust Moderation Team Resigns by whimsicalism on Monday November 22, 2021 @12:49PM (#29309377)
More so in Rust than in many other communities was my perception. Far more trans women per capita in that community than Linux kernel dev.

Still a general underrep of women.

e: Oh I see - your comment wasn't in good faith at all.

Re:Rust Moderation Team Resigns by throwaway2077 on Monday November 22, 2021 @03:24PM (#29311183)
>More so in Rust than in many other communities was my perception

not just yours :)