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Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by abstractbill on Tuesday June 19, 2007 @07:11PM (#29336)
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by far33d on Tuesday June 19, 2007 @06:19PM (#29313)
Well, now you have something to say to all those haters (the ones that think you abandoned your families or whatever such nonsense).
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by bk on Tuesday June 19, 2007 @11:38PM (#29402)
What technology did Zenter use to build their service? Python? Java? I'm just wondering if Google has a preference for certain technologies.
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by nostrademons on Wednesday June 20, 2007 @12:35AM (#29432)
Somebody asked Chris Sacca (one of Google's main acquisition guys) this at the first Startup School. His answer was "Build it in whatever language will let you get to market and start getting users fastest. Usually when Google buys a company, we have to rewrite all the code anyway to take advantage of Google's infrastructure and scale to millions of users."

This doesn't answer your question about Zenter, but it should about Google...

Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by SwellJoe on Wednesday June 20, 2007 @03:54AM (#29462)
It's predominantly JavaScript.

I believe the back end is Java.

Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by paulgb on Wednesday June 20, 2007 @11:08AM (#29540)
I think you are right. Whois.sc cached the server response headers before Google switched the server, and it was "Apache/2.2.4 (Unix) DAV/2 mod_jk/1.2.21 SVN/1.4.4". mod_jk is a Tomcat connector, so it would make sense that the site would be written in Java.
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by zach on Tuesday June 19, 2007 @06:21PM (#29316)
Good to hear, I hope it was a good payout for the founders!
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by gibsonf1 on Tuesday June 19, 2007 @06:24PM (#29319)
An incredible win-win. I'm looking forward to hearing the official buyout cost! (And I'm looking forward to using the app.)

Will the founders survive at the Googleplex for long?

Was Google's earlier vaporware announcement a strategy to get Zenter at a lower cost? Probably not, as they really need that app one way or another for the suite. Excellent recovery that Zenter got bought instead of ending up on ebay.

Also congratulations to the Y Combinator team - yet another good call added to the record. The PR from this will be big.

Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by mqt on Wednesday June 20, 2007 @04:37AM (#29474)
It's interesting that Zenter agreed to an acquisition before publicly launching. I don't recall seeing this too often.

Would they have survived a presentation-ware duel with Google or would they have suffered a fate similar to Kiko's?

I can't remember when I first heard about Zenter but it seems like I've been anticipating its release for a while. We generally hear that it's good to release early and update often so I'm interested in the story behind all of this.

Would it have been better for them to hold out and build a user base so they could be acquired for more money?

Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by gibsonf1 on Tuesday June 19, 2007 @08:08PM (#29359)
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by aston on Tuesday June 19, 2007 @06:31PM (#29323)
This makes the second service I know of (after Youtube) that Google's acquired despite already having internal teams working on a product.
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by bootload on Tuesday June 19, 2007 @07:27PM (#29344)
"... Will the founders survive at the Googleplex for long? ..." && "... second service I know of (after Youtube) that Google's acquired despite already having internal teams working on a product ..."

I was wondering about this as well, then I read this post. It must have an impact on the 'engineers' who work there having groups of buyouts with vesting periods and larger payouts. There must be some level of resentment (it's human nature). How does google manage this?

Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by antirez on Wednesday June 20, 2007 @10:03AM (#29521)
Yeah, also it is not particularly cool after you sold that you need to go at Google to work on this stuff. I mean... ok... after some year the vesting period expires and you are rich and goodbye, but in some way after the acquisition you became a "worker" for Google with much less freedom than before: this sucks.
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by pg on Wednesday June 20, 2007 @10:53AM (#29535)
It's standard procedure to go work at the acquirer after getting bought. I did it myself. It's not so bad. Having just become rich tends to put you in a pretty cheerful mood, which makes all the everyday annoyances of working at a big co slide off you. Plus Google is probably the most hacker-compatible of all big cos.
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by antirez on Thursday June 21, 2007 @04:17PM (#29893)
Plus Google is probably the most hacker-compatible of all big cos.

Maybe N years ago when google was a little startup. In every big company there is the rule that you need to do a specific stuff, and this is the worst thing that an hacker can suffer, at least in my experience: all the hackers I know tend to switch domain every few months, just the time to understand "how it works".

Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by mulcher on Wednesday June 27, 2007 @08:18PM (#31246)
If Google's going to pay me X million dollars or even X million GOOGs, I'd be more than happy working there until the integration is complete.
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by ced on Thursday June 21, 2007 @04:39AM (#29776)
How long does this typically last?
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by pg on Thursday June 21, 2007 @10:24AM (#29815)
Usually you get some kind of incentive to work for the acquirer for 1 to 4 years, median 3.
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by ced on Thursday June 21, 2007 @01:13PM (#29858)
Yikes, that's awfully long... Is it reasonably negotiable? Are there fields where this is not true?
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by bootload on Wednesday June 20, 2007 @11:52PM (#29728)
"... in some way after the acquisition you became a "worker" for Google with much less freedom ..."

In some ways post - acquisition isn't, 'job-done'. It makes more sense to see the task through integration in the new company. It is still your baby and I'll bet anyone working on it would see it that way. At the same time It would make sense also to give yourself a cut-off date working for soft-co.

Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by rokhayakebe on Tuesday June 19, 2007 @07:25PM (#29343)
YC totally got a recipe.Paul G.tell us what it is. It has to be more than "Make something people want".
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by pg on Tuesday June 19, 2007 @11:48PM (#29409)
YC's recipe is: make people make something people want.

Seriously, making something people want was exactly what the Zenters did. Everyone could see at Demo Day that they'd made something users would like.

Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by bootload on Thursday June 21, 2007 @12:05AM (#29731)
"... The smart money is saying this is a build, not a buy. ..." ~ TC, April 17, 2007 ~ http://tinyurl.com/yo99gh

So if you make things that other want, did zenter purposefully make it's product to fill the gap in google office? If so it's a risky (ballsy) strategy to compete head to head with google if they have announced their intentions. What I want to know is what happened in the following 2 months?

Was zenter X times better than the internal version?

Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by brlewis on Tuesday June 19, 2007 @11:21PM (#29398)
M.S.G.W.
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by davidw on Wednesday June 20, 2007 @02:37PM (#29604)
Yeah... something Larry and Sergey want is better than something that joe schmoe wants:-)

Congratulations are in order, in any case!

Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by brezina on Tuesday June 19, 2007 @06:38PM (#29327)
phew, now I don't need to pay back Robbie for that dinner I owe him.

Happy 1st Father's Day Wayne!

Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by gduffy on Tuesday June 19, 2007 @07:21PM (#29342)
I can do you one better ... Robbie OWES me a pizza. I like my pizza with pepperoni and shares of GOOG.
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by plusbryan on Tuesday June 19, 2007 @09:40PM (#29379)
That's really exciting. Congrats to the team. And woot!, you just raised all our valuations a little bit!
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by far33d on Wednesday June 20, 2007 @01:17PM (#29588)
Zenters - a question if you are around - did you ever end up hiring a non-founder employee?
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by vlad on Tuesday June 19, 2007 @06:36PM (#29326)
Happy Father's Day (one of the founders is a father, right?)
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by jamongkad on Wednesday June 20, 2007 @01:22AM (#29441)
Congrats guys! happy to hear about your success!
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by migpwr on Tuesday June 19, 2007 @07:16PM (#29339)
Congrats to all yall as we say in the south!
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by neilj on Wednesday June 20, 2007 @03:08AM (#29450)
Congratulations to the Zenter team!
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by ashu on Tuesday June 19, 2007 @06:34PM (#29325)
Way to go, guys. Brilliant!
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by trajan on Tuesday June 19, 2007 @06:31PM (#29322)
Really exciting. Congrats.
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by palish on Tuesday June 19, 2007 @07:04PM (#29334)
Holy moly. Way to go!
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by abstractbill on Tuesday June 19, 2007 @06:20PM (#29314)
Awesome - well done!
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by brianmckenzie on Wednesday June 20, 2007 @01:36AM (#29445)
Way to go, Zenters!
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by drusenko on Tuesday June 19, 2007 @06:13PM (#29309)
Congrats guys : )
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by akkartik on Thursday June 21, 2007 @03:38AM (#29772)
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by chris on Tuesday June 19, 2007 @08:40PM (#29367)
Congrats dudes!!
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by Readmore on Tuesday June 19, 2007 @10:21PM (#29388)
Good work guys!
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by Alex3917 on Tuesday June 19, 2007 @06:24PM (#29320)
Very nice :-)
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by startupper on Tuesday June 19, 2007 @09:33PM (#29378)
Congrats YC and Zenters!

Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by brett on Tuesday June 19, 2007 @08:23PM (#29361)
Congrats.
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by mattculbreth on Tuesday June 19, 2007 @06:14PM (#29310)
Nice job!
Re:It's official: Google buys Zenter by sharpshoot on Tuesday June 19, 2007 @06:24PM (#29318)
wow - well done!