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Re:Tesla, electric SUVs get poor scores from Consumer Reports by ericmay on Sunday November 21, 2021 @06:58PM (#29301051)
For me the one killer feature of Tesla that isn’t brought up often enough is the UI display and that they actually keep the car updated and push out improvements. Similarly to how you see other manufacturers being able to assemble a better car (for now IMO), I trust Tesla on the software front because I’ll be damned if I’m buying a car with a crappy stock Android OS or similar until proven otherwise.

> people were idling with full batteries, blocking my use

How? If you’re at full and the Supercharger is at high capacity they start paying idle fees. I mean I guess someone can sit there for no reason but that’s a surprising story to me.

Re:Tesla, electric SUVs get poor scores from Consumer Reports by userbinator on Sunday November 21, 2021 @07:20PM (#29301202)
and that they actually keep the car updated and push out improvements

...also known as fixes for stuff that should've been caught before you were sold it. The whole "update culture" that has permeated into everything is a horrible abomination. It justifies leaving flaws unfixed before release, under the premise that "we can always fix it later", and indeed that's what appears to have happened --- except, in a lot of cases, it never gets fixed.

Re:Tesla, electric SUVs get poor scores from Consumer Reports by ericmay on Sunday November 21, 2021 @07:24PM (#29301228)
But these aren’t just bug fixes which, unlike other manufacturers Tesla does fix over the air, they are new apps, games, and other features. I don’t expect a product to ship with every possible feature and never be updated. Do you not update your OS on your laptop?
Re:Tesla, electric SUVs get poor scores from Consumer Reports by bumby on Sunday November 21, 2021 @08:19PM (#29301624)
I think this is a distinction between traditional software and safety critical software. The minimum viable quality is much lower for the former. The expectation in the latter is that it has gone through rigorous quality checks to reduce uncertainty. This is distinct from the ability to be updated, as both types should have the capacity for updates.
Re:Tesla, electric SUVs get poor scores from Consumer Reports by FireBeyond on Sunday November 21, 2021 @07:08PM (#29301113)
> How? If you’re at full and the Supercharger is at high capacity they start paying idle fees. I mean I guess someone can sit there for no reason but that’s a surprising story to me.

Because the idle fee is less than some parking garages cost? Or less than the convenience cost of moving the car?

Re:Tesla, electric SUVs get poor scores from Consumer Reports by bin_bash on Sunday November 21, 2021 @07:13PM (#29301152)
the idle fee is $1/minute
Re:Tesla, electric SUVs get poor scores from Consumer Reports by FireBeyond on Sunday November 21, 2021 @07:29PM (#29301264)
That's a gamble/risk.

It's only 50c/minute if the supercharger is not fully occupied when you park.

If you're in some of the bigger cities, you can easily be approaching $30/hr for prime parking. And the idle fee is only for the period in excess of the active charging.

Tesla also just massively increased charging prices: https://carbuzz.com/news/tesla-supercharging-costs-have-quad...

Re:Tesla, electric SUVs get poor scores from Consumer Reports by bin_bash on Sunday November 21, 2021 @07:37PM (#29301318)
If there were spaces open then GP wouldn't be having this problem. And $60/hour for parking would be outrageous anywhere in the country.
Re:Tesla, electric SUVs get poor scores from Consumer Reports by ericmay on Sunday November 21, 2021 @07:46PM (#29301389)
Yes. Also the fee kicks in after a 5 minute grace period. You’re looking at $55/hour easy. Wouldn’t be surprised to see escalating idle fees in the future ($1/minute the first 15, $2/minute next and so on)