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Re:Covid-19: stigmatising the unvaccinated is not justified by tzs on Sunday November 21, 2021 @11:05AM (#29297194)
> This description suggests that vaccination status is the most significant risk factor for dying of covid

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> Age and health are more significant factors than vaccination status.

You can't easily change your age or health to reduce your risk. You can change your vaccination status. Thus for any given individual vaccination is the most significant action that can be easily taken to significantly reduce their chance of dying of COVID.

Re:Covid-19: stigmatising the unvaccinated is not justified by slibhb on Sunday November 21, 2021 @11:25AM (#29297404)
> You can't easily change your age or health to reduce your risk

It's still useful information. An elderly person, informed of his elevated risk, may make different choices than if he thought "well I'm vaccinated so I'm safe".

Anyway, your post is proving my point. The goal in describing covid as "dangerous to the lives of unvaccinated; inconvenient for the vaccinated" is to convince people to get vaccinated, not to describe reality.

There's a factual case for vaccination, and many have made it. But others are being dishonest and manipulative. There's a price to be paid for that and it may end up being more expensive than the benefits accrued.

Re:Covid-19: stigmatising the unvaccinated is not justified by makomk on Sunday November 21, 2021 @12:03PM (#29297781)
That doesn't change the fact that shaming and bullying younger people into getting vaccinated cannot possibly stop hospitals getting overwhelmed with Covid patients, and that in countries with reasonably high vaccine uptake amongst the elderly (which is fairly common - they've been much more willing to get vaccinated in most places because they're at higher risk) blaming the unvaccinated for hospitals being full has more to do with politics than actual on-the-ground reality. Sure, on an individual level getting vaccinated reduces your personal risk, but in terms of society-wide risks many places have reached a point of substantial diminishing returns precisely because age and health are the most significant factors.
Re:Covid-19: stigmatising the unvaccinated is not justified by ModernMech on Sunday November 21, 2021 @11:34AM (#29297505)
> You can't easily change your age

Strictly speaking, my age changes constantly without me even thinking about it :P