Re:Covid-19: stigmatising the unvaccinated is not justified
by angelzen on Sunday November 21, 2021 @11:33AM
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I debunked this in a dupe thread, where someone has similar claims about Minnesota, the actual hospital occupancy rate was 10%. The total covid utilization of Zurich ICU units is 14.6%. 71% of 14.6% is 10.3%. Not great, but a far cry from alarmist statements like "traffic accident victims can't be treated", when 7.5% of Zurich ICU beds are still unused, and 20% ICU beds are free in Switzerland overall.
Re:Covid-19: stigmatising the unvaccinated is not justified
by sschueller on Sunday November 21, 2021 @12:12PM
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Nothing to debunk. The 71% was clearly meant regarding cases of covid not total ICU beds. I didn't say the ICUs were already full. They are starting to fill up. We don't have a lock down at this time but if the numbers keep going up we will have no choice.
Either way it's a pandemic of the unvaccinated irregardless if the hospitals are full or not.
Re:Covid-19: stigmatising the unvaccinated is not justified
by mrfusion on Sunday November 21, 2021 @10:28AM
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That’s not a great argument when we’re firing health workers left and right.
Also we had two years to expand our ICU’s. What happened?
Re:Covid-19: stigmatising the unvaccinated is not justified
by sschueller on Sunday November 21, 2021 @10:31AM
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It takes at least 2 years to train them and like you said. The job sucks, underpaid, too many hours etc. That is why the vote on the 28th for better working conditions will pass [1].
[1] https://www.srf.ch/news/abstimmungen-28-november-2021/pflege...
Re:Covid-19: stigmatising the unvaccinated is not justified
by seoulmetro on Sunday November 21, 2021 @09:28PM
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>Also we had two years to expand our ICU’s. What happened?
You seem to think that governments are interested in actually spending money to stop the virus. They're not or they can't.
Re:Covid-19: stigmatising the unvaccinated is not justified
by charbonneau2 on Sunday November 21, 2021 @10:47AM
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Are all vaccinated getting tested in Züri hospitals? How many hospitalized COVID-19 cases have severe acute respiratory symptoms? Age breakdown? Health status? Population representative data? Historic data on hospital capacity?
71% of people in the ICU in Zürich, Switzerland are unvaccinated [1]. This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated even if the vaccinated can spread the virus, the ICU beds are full because of the unvaccinated.
[1] https://www.zh.ch/content/dam/zhweb/bilder-dokumente/themen/...