Re:Analysis of the Cosmos 1408 Breakup
by bitcharmer on Sunday November 21, 2021 @04:12AM
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I don't think the Russians care at all. They keep doing harmful things because they know they can.
For a direct example have a look at Litvinienko poisoning or skripal attacks.
This behaviour from Russia will not stop.
The longer we procrastinate, the higher price we will pay.
Are you suggesting that war with Russia today is preferable to war with Russia in the future?
Please clarify.
RF is already at (semi-cold) war with West, so peace with Russia today is preferable to peace with Russia in the future.
Re:Analysis of the Cosmos 1408 Breakup
by stevenwoo on Sunday November 21, 2021 @11:48AM
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We did nothing when Russia invaded and annexed Crimea from Ukraine in 2014.
Re:Analysis of the Cosmos 1408 Breakup
by tsimionescu on Sunday November 21, 2021 @07:01AM
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Many of the major powers have destroyed satellites in orbit - the USA as as early as 1985 and as recently as 2008, China in 2008, India in 2019. Russia's show of force is nothing special.
This is whataboutism. As others above have pointed out, the India events and US events post 1985 are not in fact comparable.
Pointing out hypocrisy is not whataboutism.
If the US wanted to have the moral high ground on this issue they shouldn't have done it themselves. This goes for a lot of things where the US had a 'first', and which other countries then more or less out of necessity follow.
We’ve learned a lot more about the risks of these test since 1985, particularly with Kessler’s paper "Collisional cascading: The limits of population growth in low Earth orbit" in 1991. The implications are much better understood now. Plus alternative test regimes, such as the tests in lower orbits, have shown that tests at this altitude just aren’t necessary. It seems highly unlikely that there’s much about this system that couldn’t have been tested just fine against a safer target.
> If the US wanted to have the moral high ground on this issue they shouldn't have done it themselves.
In 1985. The US has tested antisat weapons since, yes, but not in this reckless fashion.
Re:Analysis of the Cosmos 1408 Breakup
by tsimionescu on Sunday November 21, 2021 @09:13AM
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It's not whataboutism, it's pointing out there is nothing unique about this event. What they did is bad, but unfortunately common.
Also note how quiet Russia is about it.