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Re:Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record by rich_sasha on Saturday November 20, 2021 @12:32PM (#29290052)
Are these scores age-adjusted? If not this is particularly damning, as Tesla has one of the youngest fleets of cars out there.
Re:Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record by lrem on Saturday November 20, 2021 @02:29PM (#29291085)
Model S was launched almost 10 years ago, that's enough to get a car out of shape. Then, we're talking about a first generation product of a company learning how to deal with any of that. I don't find it surprising they're not outstanding.

In fact, I've seen a brand new Model 3 last year... The amount of manufacturing defects and design issues its owner found in the first week would be unthinkable for a Skoda Fabia. If Tesla wasn't leap and bounds ahead on the drivetrain (including batteries), they'd be on their way out.

Re:Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record by lottospm on Saturday November 20, 2021 @03:45PM (#29291686)
I don't mean to be flip, but I tend to check out white Teslas while driving by on the highway for rear panel gaps. White paint makes it especially obvious.

I'd sy 80-90% are fine, but 1 in 10 or the gaps are so bad you can see the asymmetric gaps from 30+ ft away, most often Model Ys anecdotally. I even see what looks like added seals around sides of the rear hatch sometimes.

Re:Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record by baybal2 on Saturday November 20, 2021 @10:06PM (#29293829)
Tesla drivetrain is certainly not leaps, and bounds ahead.
Re:Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record by ajross on Saturday November 20, 2021 @05:09PM (#29292301)
It's a little unclear exactly what the scores even mean, Consumer Reports doesn't share their methodology. They're just unitless numbers supposed to represent the relative likelihood of needing a repair. But the sense of the description is that these are supposed to represent the risk for a new car, not an existing one.

Really... this seems like a study designed to get clicks and not make real predictions. An actual result with units saying something like "16% of vehicles surveyed lost more than 1 day of utility due to maintenance problems in their first year" would be really interesting. No one has that, alas. So we all end up arguing about bad science.

(My car is just great, FWIW.)

Re:Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record by CameronNemo on Saturday November 20, 2021 @01:16PM (#29290439)
I would be interested in something that focuses on recent Model 3s and Ys that are shipped.

An old Model X has issues. Big whoop. They shipped a handful compared what they are now shipping.