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Re:I Love Arch, but GNU Guix Is My New Distro by kaba0 on Saturday November 20, 2021 @10:35AM (#29288962)
> the fact that right now that are hundreds of people/bots checking it.

As has been shown plenty of times, “more eyes looking at the code” is a fallacy as those eyes are very much not looking to find security vulnerabilities. Also, the lack of security in userspace GNU/linux codebases is something really worrying, much much more so than hypothetical hardware attack when you can just append to the end of .bashrc from a goddamn npm install and basically do anything you want, including streaming every single keypress?

Re:I Love Arch, but GNU Guix Is My New Distro by marcodiego on Saturday November 20, 2021 @10:53AM (#29289127)
> As has been shown plenty of times, “more eyes looking at the code” is a fallacy as those eyes are very much not looking to find security vulnerabilities.

There are also automated scans of a long list of FLOSS. Google runs OSS-Fuzz, you can check LibreOffice to see lots of commits to fix defects detected by OSS-Fuzz, coverity and other static analyzers. Access to the code, at the least allows determined users to more easily find where or why the bug happens. And yes, people do it.

> hypothetical hardware attack when you can just append to the end of .bashrc from a goddamn npm install and basically do anything you want, including streaming every single keypress?

Yes, this is more serious. But would need a compromise on packagers side and an uninformed (or automated) update on my side. Considering an update with such a vulnerability would affect initially a small fraction of users before being discovered, it is very unlikely that this hypothetical would have a big impact.

Re:I Love Arch, but GNU Guix Is My New Distro by kaba0 on Saturday November 20, 2021 @11:04AM (#29289226)
It was just one example, but running everything under the user’s user is just terrible.

Also, your automatic checker examples are related to the project’s size and importance, not to FOSS alone. It is very welcome but your average one-person C project that is installed on everyone’s system doesn’t benefit from such tools.

Re:I Love Arch, but GNU Guix Is My New Distro by fsflover on Saturday November 20, 2021 @05:23PM (#29292382)
> As has been shown plenty of times, “more eyes looking at the code” is a fallacy

This is debatable: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open-source_and_.... Any links to your argument?

Re:I Love Arch, but GNU Guix Is My New Distro by kaba0 on Sunday November 21, 2021 @06:03AM (#29295435)
Your link says they are comparable, with another study claiming better quality for open source software. While I really don’t think that grouping together vastly different softwares based on this one quality is meaningful (is a proprietary CRUD app made in 5 months with an ad-hoc architecture comparable to an open source database with proper planning and domain-expert programmers working on it?), I also didn’t claim that they were worse off, just that more eyes won’t find more/all bugs, because in fact, they don’t actually look for them in the first place.

The fact remains, every type of software is ripe for bugs and security measures must be taken so those bugs won’t become exploitable.

Re:I Love Arch, but GNU Guix Is My New Distro by fsflover on Sunday November 21, 2021 @08:52AM (#29296219)