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Re:One Einstein Is Worth a Legion of PhD Drones by AnimalMuppet on Friday November 19, 2021 @06:10PM (#29283771)
Others would have come to the same conclusions? For special relativity, yes. For general relativity, no - nobody else was walking down that road. For the photoelectric effect? Maybe.
Re:One Einstein Is Worth a Legion of PhD Drones by ChrisLomont on Friday November 19, 2021 @06:53PM (#29284172)
Tons tons of people were working on special. Hilbert had sent a paper on nearly every part of it in n before Einstein, it got delayed at the publisher, Einstein submitted his, then Hilbert sent in an updated manuscript with the same results before Einstein published. As a result of this there was a lifelong priority cold war between them.

Hilbert derived general relativity 5 days before Einstein [1]. Einstein won the public relations difference because his previous work.

It was that close.

Recall Hilbert was vastly better at the math, and was catching up leaps and bounds on Einsteins intuition at the time.

Dozens of others were also close. Minkowski, Cartan, Poincare, all were doing the same stuff, trying to unify the same items.

So had Einstein done nothing, many others were immediately going to reach the same results.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity_priority_...

Re:One Einstein Is Worth a Legion of PhD Drones by czzr on Friday November 19, 2021 @07:13PM (#29284336)
Thanks for the link - reading it, though, it’s not clear that your summary is fair. Plenty of scope for Hilbert to have been building on things he learnt from Einstein.
Re:One Einstein Is Worth a Legion of PhD Drones by bigbillheck on Friday November 19, 2021 @07:35PM (#29284461)
Plenty of scope for Einstein to have been building on things he learnt from Hilbert.
Re:One Einstein Is Worth a Legion of PhD Drones by ChrisLomont on Friday November 19, 2021 @08:11PM (#29284654)
Einsteins famous quote about his difficulties in mathematics stems from this period. Hilbert had mastered the be relevant mathematics, and was closing in on relativity much faster than Einstein. Hilbert was teaching Einstein the tools Einstein needed.

Recall at this time Hilbert was a god in mathematics, and one of the best that ever lived. He did groundbreaking work in n many areas of math and physics.

Of the two, each left alone, it's far more likely Hilbert would have arrived first. Working while corresponding likely made Einstein much faster and Hilbert slightly faster.

Einstein took 8 years to work out general relativity. Hilbert started working on physics in 1912 and by 1915 had gotten to where he was deriving general relativity. The speed he worked in physics and the broad range of topics he influenced in physics far outshines Einstein. Hilbert famously said physicists don't know enough math to do physics. He was right at that time - his math mastery let him plow through physics much faster.

To see the scope of things attributed to Hilbert versus attributed to Einsteins simply look over their Wikipedia pages.

Re:One Einstein Is Worth a Legion of PhD Drones by vsef on Friday November 19, 2021 @07:00PM (#29284243)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity_priority_...

This is just not true. Einstein's earliest GR work is a collaboration with Marcel Grossman. Hilbert's work is so close and overlapping that it takes quite a bit of effort even to verify that Einstein's work was genuinely independent.

Re:One Einstein Is Worth a Legion of PhD Drones by PaulHoule on Friday November 19, 2021 @06:46PM (#29284105)
If you take the equivalence principle seriously GR is the simplest possible theory.

I think the most profound work in mathematical physics of Einstein’s generation was done by Emmy Noether and Einstein thought so too.

Her trail really induces modern physics as we no it.

Re:One Einstein Is Worth a Legion of PhD Drones by hn_throwaway_99 on Friday November 19, 2021 @06:47PM (#29284118)
Thanks very much for posting this response. Everything I've read about general relativity has basically said that if Einstein didn't come up with it, it could have been many decades until someone else did. It was just that unique at the time, and Einstein's genius really was as deservedly celebrated as it's been.
Re:One Einstein Is Worth a Legion of PhD Drones by ogogmad on Friday November 19, 2021 @06:44PM (#29284080)
> For general relativity, no - nobody else was walking down that road

Hilbert? (I don't actually know.)