News for hackers. Stuff that matters.

A comment on Tesla ranks almost dead-last on Consumer Reports reliability list. Parent comment

Re:Tesla ranks almost dead-last on Consumer Reports reliabil... by blitzar on Friday November 19, 2021 @08:48AM (#29277057)
"SUV" is a marketting term that came into common use in the 80's in America.

There is no commonly agreed-upon definition of an SUV, and usage of the term varies between countries. Thus, it is "a loose term that traditionally covers a broad range of vehicles with four-wheel drive."

As such I am happy to claim, given there is no formal definition of what is and what isnt an SUV; that they dont exist at all, if only wishing made it so.

If one wants to claim they do indeed exist - there are plenty of examples from the 1940s and 1950's. “Sport utility vehicle” appeared for the first time in 1974 in the brochure of the first-generation Cherokee. So by the measure of marketing material, they have not been around 50 years, they have been around 47 years.

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Tesla ranks almost dead-last on Consumer Reports reliabil... by chrisseaton on Friday November 19, 2021 @08:54AM (#29277101)
What do you mean by out of date then? They're the best selling form-factor in many countries aren't they?

And it's not a US thing - the Germans, French, and British are also more and more switching their focus to the SUV form-factor.

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Tesla ranks almost dead-last on Consumer Reports reliabil... by blitzar on Friday November 19, 2021 @09:05AM (#29277215)
> They're the best selling form-factor in many countries aren't they?

Even allowing for the massive definition creep that basically every car where the bonnet / windscreen angle is shallow being an SUV. No - around 30% would be my best guess.

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Tesla ranks almost dead-last on Consumer Reports reliabil... by chrisseaton on Friday November 19, 2021 @09:13AM (#29277296)
I think for definition what people really care about in practice, even if they don't know it, is it a car they have to crouch down into, or can they simply sit into it. Most people don't like those flat cars that you stoop down into anymore.

I think Ford, that massive iconic US car brand, have discontinued all sedans in the US now, since they're so unpopular.

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Tesla ranks almost dead-last on Consumer Reports reliabil... by ImPostingOnHN on Friday November 19, 2021 @05:07PM (#29283216)
they said "truck/suv", not "suv"

pretty sure members of ((the set "truck") + (the set "suv")) have existed for more than 50 years, because that union includes trucks

[ Parent | on HN ]