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Re:SerenityOS demo at Handmade Seattle 2021 [video] by bluedino on Thursday November 18, 2021 @07:17PM (#29272314)
I think that Windows 2000 and Max OS were the pinnacle of clean Interfaces.

It seems like once the graphics capabilities became common, OS interface developers used them even when they shouldn't have. Remember when moving windows in Linux had a "jiggle" to them? The genie effect in OS X? What about the "cube" of multiple desktop? I still don't know what the point of transparent windows is.

A few effects are useful - like aero peek in Windows.

Re:SerenityOS demo at Handmade Seattle 2021 [video] by doubled112 on Thursday November 18, 2021 @07:56PM (#29272565)
I think some of those animations make the desktop behave a little more like objects would in the real world.

For minimize, whether it's a line that shrinks, a genie lamp, a simple shrink effect, it's all the same. A simple visual cue telling you where it went.

A little form with the function is fine with me. There's a ton of computing power in even the weakest of machines. That said, I hope we'll always be able to turn it off.

Even a default install of Raspberry Pi OS uses a composited window manager on the RPi 4 now.

Re:SerenityOS demo at Handmade Seattle 2021 [video] by ori_b on Thursday November 18, 2021 @08:54PM (#29272952)
> I think some of those animations make the desktop behave a little more like objects would in the real world.

Why is this desirable? Objects in the real world have many inconvenient properties.

Re:SerenityOS demo at Handmade Seattle 2021 [video] by BobbyJo on Thursday November 18, 2021 @10:52PM (#29273628)
It can make things more intuitive. If you use mental models people already have, they tend to pick things up faster. I think the point of the cube, for instance, was to help people keep track of multiple windows a little easier by making it spacial as opposed to just a list. Maybe it wasn't very effective in that case, but I think the hypothesis was sound.
Re:SerenityOS demo at Handmade Seattle 2021 [video] by qwerty456127 on Friday November 19, 2021 @09:21AM (#29277423)
> It seems like once the graphics capabilities became common, OS interface developers used them even when they shouldn't have.

When you release a new OS version it has to look fresh or nobody will want it.

Re:SerenityOS demo at Handmade Seattle 2021 [video] by edgyquant on Thursday November 18, 2021 @11:45PM (#29273929)
I think a lot of these things make interactions more pleasant, definitely more aesthetically pleasing. I know people love to hate on everything new but I grew up on early windows (my first PC was Windows 95) and I always thought it was kinda ugly but PCs couldn’t handle much more.
Re:SerenityOS demo at Handmade Seattle 2021 [video] by tpxl on Friday November 19, 2021 @01:40AM (#29274466)
I think you can face-lift the W95/W2000 system without losing the usability, people just didn't do that. That's what I hate the most about "modern" UIs, designers make them look pretty and degrade usability, instead of just making them pretty.
Re:SerenityOS demo at Handmade Seattle 2021 [video] by CRConrad on Friday November 19, 2021 @02:19PM (#29281116)
> That's what I hate the most about "modern" UIs, designers make them look pretty and degrade usability, instead of just making them pretty.

What's worse is, (at least IMO) they aren't even particularly pretty.

Re:SerenityOS demo at Handmade Seattle 2021 [video] by edgyquant on Saturday November 20, 2021 @07:32AM (#29287523)
What would you say the modern windows shell is missing that existed in Windows 2000?
Re:SerenityOS demo at Handmade Seattle 2021 [video] by chillfox on Sunday November 21, 2021 @07:38PM (#29301323)
XP is basically the W95/W2000 interface but pretty.
Re:SerenityOS demo at Handmade Seattle 2021 [video] by CRConrad on Friday November 19, 2021 @02:18PM (#29281098)
> I still don't know what the point of transparent windows is.

But about half of Linux YouTubers proudly display them. (Between you and them, the clueless one isn't you.)

Re:SerenityOS demo at Handmade Seattle 2021 [video] by michaelbrave on Friday November 19, 2021 @09:52AM (#29277751)
I remember really old Macs had a thing to pull the bottom corner up to take a peek at what was behind that window, it was neat and never seen again