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Re:I would like closure, but I'll take honesty by worik on Thursday November 18, 2021 @03:54PM (#29270388)
> I have asked that people consider that I deserve neither total condemnation nor total exoneration.

This. In a lot of circles I move there is a tendency to "total condemnation".

We can be better to each other. When we do not deserve it is when we need it the most.

Peace, love, respect foster peace, love and respect. "Total condemnation" might make the condemner have some temporary good feelings, but does no good for anybody beyond that.

Re:I would like closure, but I'll take honesty by unreal37 on Thursday November 18, 2021 @04:31PM (#29270868)
Also, "To those of you who are not people I harmed in my psychotic episode in August 2017… what is it you think I owe you?"

There seems to be this tendency that people who only learned about something 5 minutes ago get outrage and demand retribution. Like it's a reflex.

The mob has vigilante tendencies. Let's go write an email to someone's employer and demand that they fire them. Millions of people band together and demand justice. For what?

Re:I would like closure, but I'll take honesty by dbtc on Thursday November 18, 2021 @08:13PM (#29272665)
I think it’s because the offender is perceived to have harmed the group to which the outraged individual belongs or aspires to belong.

And/or for the likes/retweets/upvotes.

Re:I would like closure, but I'll take honesty by watwut on Thursday November 18, 2021 @04:35PM (#29270918)
The original victim seems to be pissed on author for making himself victim now and for not going away from his life as he promised.

Some of the angry people have been there whole time and are actually the ones having to deal with it.

Re:I would like closure, but I'll take honesty by zepto on Thursday November 18, 2021 @05:37PM (#29271511)
Is DeBoer ‘making himself the victim’?

It looks to me as though he is a victim of a bunch of social vigilantes who have nothing to do with the original situation.

The ‘original victim’ would be better off if these vigilantes weren’t involving themselves in the situation.

Re:I would like closure, but I'll take honesty by watwut on Friday November 19, 2021 @01:22AM (#29274396)
https://mobile.twitter.com/BigMeanInternet/status/1372530096...

This is what "original victim" retweeted again, like yesterday.

> who have nothing to do with the original situation.

Speaking about lies, you made that up. It is assumption based on what you want to be true.

Re:I would like closure, but I'll take honesty by zepto on Friday November 19, 2021 @05:41PM (#29283560)
>> who have nothing to do with the original situation.

> Speaking about lies, you made that up. It is assumption based on what you want to be true.

What did I make up? Are you connected to the original situation? If so, please explain your connection. If you are an interested party in this, it would be honest for you to explain that now.

Re:I would like closure, but I'll take honesty by pdonis on Thursday November 18, 2021 @05:09PM (#29271264)
> The original victim seems to be pissed

He does? I'm not seeing that in any of the posts by Malcolm Harris that have been referenced in this thread.

Re:I would like closure, but I'll take honesty by watwut on Friday November 19, 2021 @01:20AM (#29274387)
Re:I would like closure, but I'll take honesty by kempbellt on Thursday November 18, 2021 @04:20PM (#29270726)
> This. In a lot of circles I move there is a tendency to "total condemnation".

Which, ironically feels more like a bipolar approach to resolving a problem. Are they good, or are they bad? Is it legal, or is it illegal? Are they right, or are they wrong? Do we punish, or do we praise?

There seems to be this strange generalized assumption that people are bipolar, and they are the problem. Completely ignoring the fact that society itself demonstrates some seriously bipolar tendencies. Many times, suggesting "either/or" solutions to problems that would really benefit from more nuance.

Sometimes the best answer is: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re:I would like closure, but I'll take honesty by afarrell on Thursday November 18, 2021 @04:30PM (#29270849)
Nuance requires more attention and brainspace than most people have for someone they are only tangentially aware of like a NYT author. Such casual thought only leaves room for binary yes-or-no questions.

Is Freddie DeBoer still worthy of condemnation?

As an uninvolved party, I think the wisest answer for me to give is: Meh ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

Re:I would like closure, but I'll take honesty by KittenInABox on Thursday November 18, 2021 @04:28PM (#29270816)
I don't think this is an accurate depiction of bipolar. This is more accurate to the term "splitting" or black/white thinking which is more common in personality disorders.
Re:I would like closure, but I'll take honesty by ditonal on Thursday November 18, 2021 @04:59PM (#29271165)
Yes, unfortunately the vernacular usage of the word bipolar, and actual bipolar disorder, are significantly different. The vernacular usage of 'bipolar' implies sudden mood swings and black/white thinking, whereas bipolar disorder implies episodes of mania or depression that typically last weeks to months. It also doesn't help that people consistently confuse bipolar disorder with BPD because the acronym could work for either.
Re:I would like closure, but I'll take honesty by whatshisface on Thursday November 18, 2021 @04:17PM (#29270696)
>I have asked that people consider that I deserve neither total condemnation nor total exoneration.

The basic irony of the intellectual community responding to the symptoms of bipolar disorder by carrying out the behavior that is the most characteristic feature of bipolar disorder can't be lost on anyone.

Re:I would like closure, but I'll take honesty by Pensacola on Thursday November 18, 2021 @04:33PM (#29270890)
People might do good things or bad things, but people aren't good or bad. They're just people. Actions can be good or bad. It's fair to completely condemn the action, not the person. Since you can't get inside someone's head to know their motives, it's dishonest - or at best deluded - to totally condemn anyone. You can't fix a css problem by debugging the server code.