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Re:Most who want simple ‘bonsai’ trees are ill-served by tra... by Agentlien on Thursday November 18, 2021 @03:42AM (#29263414)
Don't get me wrong. I know a lot of wonderful people who are a lot of fun to play with. I met many of my best friends, including my wife, through online games.

But there's unfortunately a loud enough unpleasant portion of the gamer community that describing myself as a gamer to people outside of my closest circle of friends and colleagues tends to invoke a picture of gamers screaming insults and rage quitting whenever they lose and insulting and laughing at people when they win.

Re:Most who want simple ‘bonsai’ trees are ill-served by tra... by Tijdreiziger on Thursday November 18, 2021 @04:34AM (#29263704)
Aren't a lot of hobbies like this? Personally I just try to enjoy what I enjoy, without worrying too much about the subset of people who might consider me 'too casual' or whatever.
Re:Most who want simple ‘bonsai’ trees are ill-served by tra... by Agentlien on Thursday November 18, 2021 @05:17AM (#29263926)
A lot of hobbies have purists, elitists, and hyper-competitive people in them who focus on gatekeeping. But I think for most communities this is something people learn when trying to get into it themselves.

For gaming, it seems to me this to me this is more part of the public perception than for other hobbies. Or perhaps I'm just too far removed from an outside view of it.

Re:Most who want simple ‘bonsai’ trees are ill-served by tra... by ubercore on Thursday November 18, 2021 @08:07AM (#29264957)
I feel like the same gatekeeping is in almost every hobby at some level, but gaming tends to have less social grace built around it -- it's a little more in your face.
Re:Most who want simple ‘bonsai’ trees are ill-served by tra... by Chris2048 on Thursday November 18, 2021 @11:01AM (#29266932)
It's maybe notable that a lot of games are related to combat in some form.

I also notice how toxic some regular airsoft/paintball players can be, especially young men/teens.