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Re:Microsoft blocks EdgeDeflector to force Windows 11 users ... by diggan on Wednesday November 17, 2021 @07:18AM (#29252079)
> Yeah, there are effectively two Microsofts. The dev/tooling MS is awesome. VS Code is great, .NET is unsexy but very solid, their recent efforts on Python are commendable, I've also heard good things about Azure.

The same goes for lots of organizations, which makes it really hard to vote with your attention, time and money.

Facebook is another example. Yes, React was really cool when it launched, and great innovation comes from the Facebook engineering team. But is it worth supporting their engineering team when at large, the organization seems to contribute more bad to world than good?

I'm torn myself and not sure what to think anymore. Same applies to Microsoft. I really want to like the new Microsoft, but it's hard to just forget the past and see past issues like this, and it makes my view on the rest of their tooling to be less favorable.

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Re:Microsoft blocks EdgeDeflector to force Windows 11 users ... by skeeter2020 on Wednesday November 17, 2021 @08:28AM (#29252670)
The React team is like 7 people; I'm not sure that qualifies as a seperate organization within Facebook, since the rest of their 1000's of developers are just using React like everyone else.

While I do run windows at home you can easily enjoy the developer-centric Microsoft without enaging with the consumer side.

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Re:Microsoft blocks EdgeDeflector to force Windows 11 users ... by diggan on Thursday November 18, 2021 @08:39AM (#29265206)
React is just one example, Facebook does a lot more engineering and releases it to the public than React.

I know I could just use and promote React without using and promoting Facebook-The-Platform. My argument was more around that by using React and promoting it, aren't I indirectly promoting Facebook then? Same goes for Microsoft or any other company that has a "good" side and a "bad" side. How can we support the good side without supporting the bad side indirectly?

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Re:Microsoft blocks EdgeDeflector to force Windows 11 users ... by ebawho44 on Wednesday November 17, 2021 @07:38AM (#29252253)
How does using react support facebook though?
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Re:Microsoft blocks EdgeDeflector to force Windows 11 users ... by nanis on Wednesday November 17, 2021 @09:56AM (#29253826)
By providing Facebook with a "reserve army of developers trained in and willing to use the framework they use to build their stuff".
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Re:Microsoft blocks EdgeDeflector to force Windows 11 users ... by kreeben on Wednesday November 17, 2021 @11:04AM (#29254813)
Does it still hold true, that by using React or any other tech that comes out of Facebook, you relinquish your right to sue them?
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Re:Microsoft blocks EdgeDeflector to force Windows 11 users ... by __s on Wednesday November 17, 2021 @11:25AM (#29255103)
No, it's since become MIT https://github.com/facebook/react/blob/f320ef88f51fbdc5aba38...
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Re:Microsoft blocks EdgeDeflector to force Windows 11 users ... by ethagnawl on Wednesday November 17, 2021 @12:28PM (#29255996)
At the very least, it results in people filing bug reports and feature requests which may in turn result in their products being more reliable, faster, etc.

I don't know what their policy on accepting code contributions from third parties is, but the prospective value of those contributions should speak for itself.

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