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Re:Amazon to stop accepting UK Visa credit cards by azalemeth on Wednesday November 17, 2021 @06:08AM (#29251456)
If anything, that's an argument in favour of the whole thing being government controlled -- it's clearly a natural monopoly with a large capital expenditure requirement and a comparatively minimal (as a percentage of transactions) ongoing charge required to continue to run it. I mean, it clearly doesn't cost Visa / MC any more to make a £/$/€45 000 payment than a £/$/€5 one – database writes are not cheaper or more expensive if the fixed point value you change is smaller or larger (subject to fitting within the range requirements, etc)...
Re:Amazon to stop accepting UK Visa credit cards by gtirloni on Wednesday November 17, 2021 @06:53AM (#29251838)
Brazil has gone that route with PIX [0]. It's a fund transfer system with realtime confirmation. Many e-commerce stores accept it besides debit/credit, they can confirm the payment almost instantaneously and they usually give discounts if you use PIX instead of debit/credit (3-10%).

Also, paying at stores, clinics, doctors, etc.. all done with PIX nowadays. Very few people are carrying cash these days. Very few clinics had a payment machine to accept debit/credit cards and now with PIX they have no incentive to do so anymore.

To transfer funds, you can specify the user's ID (which can be a phone number, national tax identification or some random string the user creates). To pay for purchases, you usually scan a QR code or copy a payment string using your bank's app/website. It's very convenient.

0 - https://www.bcb.gov.br/en/financialstability/pix_en

Re:Amazon to stop accepting UK Visa credit cards by radiator on Wednesday November 17, 2021 @09:19AM (#29253262)
Interesting. Is having a brazilian bank account a prerequisite to use PIX?
Re:Amazon to stop accepting UK Visa credit cards by toyg on Wednesday November 17, 2021 @08:44AM (#29252847)
> If anything, that's an argument in favour of the whole thing being government controlled

Absolutely, and I kinda expect this to become the case eventually across Europe, as the "cashless society" vision becomes inevitable. If you make it de-facto compulsory for citizens to operate electronically, it's only fair that there should be the sort of guarantees and accountability that only the State can provide, even if you lose a bit of innovation or efficiency.

Re:Amazon to stop accepting UK Visa credit cards by kasey_junk on Wednesday November 17, 2021 @06:26AM (#29251589)
You are forgetting about risk management which does change based on the fixed point value.