Making life easier for newcomers to the .NET ecosystem

Re:Making life easier for newcomers to the .NET ecosystem by R0b0t1 on Monday November 15, 2021 @10:40AM (#29228642)

Those latter things (COM, WinRT) are gated behind the enterprise license, IIRC. Most people will not have cause to want them.

I know I don't.

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Re:Making life easier for newcomers to the .NET ecosystem by pjmlp on Monday November 15, 2021 @11:25AM (#29229189)

Any serious Windows developer will.

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Re:Making life easier for newcomers to the .NET ecosystem by R0b0t1 on Monday November 15, 2021 @02:18PM (#29231401)

They're a sign of dated tech. Nothing modern necessarily needs them. I know how to use them and I can respect the design, but pay gating them for so long has made them irrelevant.

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Re:Making life easier for newcomers to the .NET ecosystem by pjmlp on Tuesday November 16, 2021 @04:41AM (#29238675)

Not only those things aren't gated, they are the modern APIs on Windows since Longhorn, they are only irrelevant if you are stuck on Windows XP.

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Re:Making life easier for newcomers to the .NET ecosystem by R0b0t1 on Tuesday November 16, 2021 @01:53PM (#29244819)

The developer tooling was pay gated until VS2019 or something. You needed this tooling to make use of the APIs in a reasonable way, or alternative tooling.

Most people just responded by not using those APIs or recreating them.

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Re:Making life easier for newcomers to the .NET ecosystem by GordonS on Monday November 15, 2021 @02:23PM (#29231472)

Serious Windows developer here - I want nothing to do with COM or WinRt!

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Re:Making life easier for newcomers to the .NET ecosystem by pjmlp on Tuesday November 16, 2021 @02:14AM (#29237787)

Given that since Longhorn debacle, for better or worse all new APIs are COM based, and WinRT is still COM with extras, I cannot take that as serious Windows developer, rather a developer stuck with a Windows XP.

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