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Re:Snowflake’s response to Databricks’ TPC-DS post by michaelhartm on Saturday November 13, 2021 @02:06AM (#29208014)
* Databricks is unethical

* Nobody should benchmark anymore, just focus on customers instead

* But hey, we just did some benchmarks and we look better than what Databricks claims

* Btw, please sign up and do some benchmarks on Snowflake, we actually ship TPC-DS dataset with Snowflake

* Btw, we agree with Databricks, let's remove the DeWitt clause, vendors should be able to benchmark each other!

* Consistency is more important than anything else!!!

Re:Snowflake’s response to Databricks’ TPC-DS post by uvdn7 on Saturday November 13, 2021 @10:30AM (#29210420)
I don’t think they are saying benchmark is not important but rather public benchmark war being a distraction.
Re:Snowflake’s response to Databricks’ TPC-DS post by kingkongv2 on Saturday November 13, 2021 @02:46AM (#29208187)
If people have never heard of Databricks, now is the time because a 100 billion company just started a war against them. Great marketing win Databricks.
Re:Snowflake’s response to Databricks’ TPC-DS post by glogla on Saturday November 13, 2021 @11:01AM (#29210667)
Databricks is $28B valuation and 2800 employees, Snowflake is $109 valuation and 2500 employees.

They are both billion dolar companies, we're hardly talking David and Goliath here.

Re:Snowflake’s response to Databricks’ TPC-DS post by alexott on Saturday November 13, 2021 @11:20AM (#29210860)
for DB that's old number - recent valuation is $38B
Re:Snowflake’s response to Databricks’ TPC-DS post by geoduck14 on Saturday November 13, 2021 @09:14AM (#29209852)
To be fair, I've been equating Databricks for a month or so. Databricks is coming after Snowflake. Snowflake doesn't care. Snowflake has a pretty solid moat with:

EASY SQL, data sharing (they have a marketplace), simple scaling

Re:Snowflake’s response to Databricks’ TPC-DS post by bpaneural on Saturday November 13, 2021 @09:35AM (#29210003)
You'll need to revisit this again. In the last two years Databricks has built a lead and a bigger moat. They're essentially nice chaps with a huge community backing them. And we all love their open source tools which essentially powers not only their big data platforms, but everyone else's too (AWS, GCP).
Re:Snowflake’s response to Databricks’ TPC-DS post by ageek123 on Saturday November 13, 2021 @09:40PM (#29215010)
Databricks introduced an open source data sharing feature earlier this year. I don't know Databricks well enough to comment on the other two.
Re:Snowflake’s response to Databricks’ TPC-DS post by cloudbonsai on Saturday November 13, 2021 @04:10AM (#29208504)
The interesting part is that Snowflake omits Databricks' performance scores in their graphs. Here is how they compare on TPC-DS benchmark, based on two companies' self-reports:

* Elapsed time: 3108s (Databricks) vs 3760s (Snowflake)

* Price/Peformance: $242 (Databricks) vs $267 (Snowflake)

Needless to say, these numbers seriously need a verification by independent 3rd parties, but it seems that Databricks is still 18% faster and 10% cheaper than Snowflake?

Re:Snowflake’s response to Databricks’ TPC-DS post by geoduck14 on Saturday November 13, 2021 @09:12AM (#29209838)
The way I read this is: DataBricks benchmarked against us, and they messed it up. Here is hou YOU should evaluate Snowflake performance. And, by the way, it is pretty easy to do it.