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Re:But What's Up with That ¥? by makeitdouble on Thursday November 11, 2021 @08:18PM (#29195301)
Now that a significant number of programmers use Mac keyboard, I frequently see people go for the "International" layout that is available from every Apple stores() for all keyboard including laptops. It's pretty close to the US layout, with a bigger entry key and two more keys as a bonus.

() in some store I think it's the "GB international". Also, it's such as shame all layouts aren't available from all countries, when in practice ordering a laptop means having it shipped from China anyway.

Re:But What's Up with That ¥? by gumby on Thursday November 11, 2021 @08:40PM (#29195434)
I think it’s partially a local inventory issue but more importantly reduces the chance the customer will accidentally order the wrong thing, at the cost of making an unusual case more complicated.
Re:But What's Up with That ¥? by makeitdouble on Thursday November 11, 2021 @10:52PM (#29196152)
I wonder if beyond local inventory, there is a repair/support aspect to it.

On the confusion part, I once went through phone support back and forth to get a BTO with a different keyboard. It didn't work, and I didn't get much info beyond shrugs. They basically tried to pass the order to the JP branch and it didn't pan out.

Re:But What's Up with That ¥? by glandium on Thursday November 11, 2021 @09:04PM (#29195566)
There are significant differences in what's on shift+numbers. Like ( is on 8 and ) on 9. (IIRC they are on 9 and 0 on US keyboards) Other non alphabetical keys have different location too.
Re:But What's Up with That ¥? by Symbiote on Friday November 12, 2021 @06:40AM (#29198284)
No, you are describing several European layouts, but not those intended for English speakers

The British, Irish and especially the "International" layout are close to the US layout.

Re:But What's Up with That ¥? by glandium on Friday November 12, 2021 @02:52PM (#29203802)
I'm describing the Japanese layout.
Re:But What's Up with That ¥? by pcardoso on Friday November 12, 2021 @03:07AM (#29197237)
I use the normal Portuguese keyboards but with the US intl layout.

Remnants from a time where my iBook g3 keyboard was US, and the Portuguese layout cost extra. I never got used to the Mac Portuguese layout either. Shortcut issues and some symbols in wrong places.

Makes computers easier to resell locally when I upgrade.

Re:But What's Up with That ¥? by akg_67 on Friday November 12, 2021 @02:01AM (#29196963)
I just ordered the new MBP with US Keyboard from Apple Store in Japan. Default is Japanese JIS keyboard. Drop down selection for keyboard also had other localities and language options.