Re:Making the dislike count private across YouTube
by Mountain_Skies on Wednesday November 10, 2021 @05:30PM
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What fraction of videos on YouTube are political in nature? Seems like a lot of throwing the baby out with the bathwater in this. Why should videos about replacing the alternator on a 1999 Ford Ranger have the Like/Dislike buttons removed because YouTube wants to protect a very small number of accounts from criticism?
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Re:Making the dislike count private across YouTube
by epolanski on Wednesday November 10, 2021 @07:32PM
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Exactly.
The example you make is fantastic, because if such a video had 4 times more dislikes you know you’ll probably not find anything useful there, generally confirmed by skimming comments fast as “ this is a 1997 model “, etc.
Re:Making the dislike count private across YouTube
by rvba on Thursday November 11, 2021 @02:19AM
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In last months comments often just disappear randomly. Youtube outsourced their spam filter and it was messed up - randomly deletes comments on basis of poorly set machine learming model and wrongly set keywords.
Re:Making the dislike count private across YouTube
by gremloni on Wednesday November 10, 2021 @05:33PM
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It’s definitely not small. I’m not particularly political and anecdotally my recommendation bubble has atleast 30% of politically “triggering” videos. These videos don’t have to be explicitly political but just involve a person that can be considered a “trigger”. I mostly watch videos on wood and metal working.
Re:Making the dislike count private across YouTube
by Mountain_Skies on Wednesday November 10, 2021 @05:41PM
(#29181956)
What YouTube recommends to you is just that, their recommendations. It doesn't reflect the actual amount of content that exists, it reflects what YouTube wants you to watch to drive engagement. It might be 0.001% of content but make up 30% of the recommendations YouTube gives you.
Re:Making the dislike count private across YouTube
by naasking on Thursday November 11, 2021 @08:06AM
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> It doesn't reflect the actual amount of content that exists, it reflects what YouTube wants you to watch to drive engagement.
Exactly. And what drives engagement more than enraging political content? Of course they're going to shove politics in your face even if you've never watched a single one before.
Re:Making the dislike count private across YouTube
by VBprogrammer on Wednesday November 10, 2021 @06:15PM
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Interestingly we have similar hobbies. I have to actively hit the don't recommend this to me button on all the political stuff. It generally works for a while and then I accidentally watch something close to controversial and I get another flood.
Re:Making the dislike count private across YouTube
by NavinF on Wednesday November 10, 2021 @06:14PM
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I too mostly watch woodworking/metalworking. If I ignore the “current events” row of videos that I haven’t clicked on in years (because they are incredibly boring and oversimplify complex topics), less than 1% of my recommendations are political. I wonder how YouTube decides which videos to allow in that special row. Most of them don’t have nearly as many views/hour as my usual recommendations.
Re:Making the dislike count private across YouTube
by hnzix on Wednesday November 10, 2021 @06:52PM
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The algo loves some ragebait. I ruthlessly remove bad recs and yet I watch one self-help video and suddenly the algo shows me far-right suggestions.
Re:Making the dislike count private across YouTube
by jquery on Thursday November 11, 2021 @03:01AM
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It’s pretty incredible how hard the recommendation algorithm is trying to make me become right wing. It must assume I am because of my interests and watch history. Not interested, YT.