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Re:Opening this article voids warranty by rootusrootus on Tuesday November 09, 2021 @03:05PM (#29166749)
> The rise of the throwaway product is a rather recent phenomenon. Our grandparents repaired everything. It's the only sustainable approach.

How do you change that, though? Our grandparents repaired things because they were expensive. In the 50s, a washer & dryer cost $500. In today's money that would be over $5000. And income has gone up even more. Purely in economic terms it has become considerably less appealing to fix a broken appliance.

Re:Opening this article voids warranty by MisterTea on Tuesday November 09, 2021 @03:44PM (#29167216)
Our grand parents also didn't have everything made of flimsy plastic and highly integrated electronics. Their washer likely consisted of a gearbox and motor with a switch or two.

My previous washer was about 30 years old when the tub finally rusted out at the support. It would have been 25 years had I not pathched it twice with water resistant epoxy when it first sprang a leak. It had a simple mechanical timer knob that handled the sequencing and timing of cycles. Couple of other knobs set the water temp, spin/wash speed, and optional rinse. It was dumb as a brick and cleaned my clothes.

Now my $1200 LG washer has WiFi (I NEVER connected it on purpose), beats the shit out of everything you put inside, and heavily soiled items come out stained and half clean. I emailed LG asking if they offered you access to their dumb cloud API and the answer is No unless your are a partner company. I hope this thing does not break down in the next 10 years but I doubt that.

Re:Opening this article voids warranty by quickthrowman on Tuesday November 09, 2021 @06:41PM (#29169073)
LG, Samsung, etc are junk for washer/dryers.

Speed Queen still makes quality laundry machines, buy those next time. No WiFi!

Re:Opening this article voids warranty by rhinoceraptor on Tuesday November 09, 2021 @07:50PM (#29169697)
I have a Samsung washer and dryer that are fairly new and it's not that hard to repair if you have the parts. The roller bearings for my dryer seized up, so I ordered a kit from Amazon to replace the wheels and it took me about an hour.
Re:Opening this article voids warranty by rootusrootus on Wednesday November 10, 2021 @12:58PM (#29177865)
Yeah, the upside of the dryer is that it's really easy to work on, the downside is that it breaks easily. I have no plans to buy any more Samsung appliances, I've been bitten three times now.
Re:Opening this article voids warranty by rootusrootus on Wednesday November 10, 2021 @12:59PM (#29177873)
Yeah I'm done with Samsung after this washer & dryer hit end-of-life. Speed Queen is definitely first on my list of replacement options.
Re:Opening this article voids warranty by FireBeyond on Tuesday November 09, 2021 @03:56PM (#29167366)
> Now my $1200 LG washer has WiFi (I NEVER connected it on purpose)

I think some appliances (TVs, perhaps?) have been caught connecting to any open AP they can find, even if you don't give it credentials to your network.

Re:Opening this article voids warranty by rootusrootus on Tuesday November 09, 2021 @06:27PM (#29168964)
I feel your pain on that LG. I bought a Samsung washer & dryer, and within the first 18 months both broke. Fixed under warranty, and knock on wood still okay now. Consumer Reports rated them highly, but I won't ever buy another Samsung appliance (I have a Samsung fridge already, I should have known not to trust CR on the washer/dryer recommendation). Everything I've read says LG is basically just as bad as Samsung.

When these need replacing, I'm buying a speed queen.

Re:Opening this article voids warranty by rlpb on Tuesday November 09, 2021 @06:49PM (#29169157)
However a modern washer uses a fraction of the water and electricity of an old one - at least in parts of the world where these things are regulated. Pressure in this direction is probably the reason you're not happy with the quality of the clean.
Re:Opening this article voids warranty by earleybird on Tuesday November 09, 2021 @07:54PM (#29169728)
Built to die 6 months after the warrantee expires has nothing to do with how little power/water it uses.