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Re:An unofficial and free mod for FS2020 to load Google Maps... by n8cpdx on Monday November 08, 2021 @06:04PM (#29155499)
Bing used to have better maps data than Google. Birds Eye was really cool. It was a brief window when it was better. MS Research had a project that was basically streetview before streetview existed. ~2010, there was a whole platform within bing maps for applications to integrate. One of them had photosynth, which made reconstructed, explorable models available within the map, long before integrated mesh became a standard mapping feature.

There was lots of cool stuff available, but that whole org was held back by, I assume, internal politics. It was so bad that Azure Maps, another Microsoft product, doesn’t even use Bing data (or at least didn’t when it was announced and last I checked). Very sad.

Re:An unofficial and free mod for FS2020 to load Google Maps... by renton_wal on Monday November 08, 2021 @06:24PM (#29155670)
All speculation, but I bet they screwed themselves on licensing.

Google put a ton of money into acquiring mapping visuals themselves, as did apple. Microsoft simply licensed the hell out of it.

When Google was ready, they were able to sell their mapping solution. Microsoft, on the other hand, was short sighted and only copying Google.

Another example of Microsoft playing copycat to Google, and having it pay off poorly in the long term is bing411: Google launched goog411 to gather voice data, Microsoft spent a ton of money and copied and used their top tier voice recognition service. Google shut down goog411 not long after: it was never about offering a service.

Re:An unofficial and free mod for FS2020 to load Google Maps... by Bluecobra on Monday November 08, 2021 @10:06PM (#29157247)
Microsoft was involved with satellite imagery back in the 90’s, so I don’t see how they could have been copying Google.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Research_Maps

Re:An unofficial and free mod for FS2020 to load Google Maps... by renton_wal on Wednesday November 10, 2021 @04:15PM (#29180931)
I'm not saying they were copying the concept of sattelite imagery, but rather they were late to the business model of maps-as-a-service. And thus, significant components of their modern (after usgs) imagery had licensing terms onerous to competing with Google.

Also, it's not just satellite imagery, but street view. I'm referring to the google strategy of selling the maps as a service, something that microsoft took a while to catch up on.

> involved with satellite imagery back in the 90’s

Yes, they partnered with the USGS to distribute already collected map imagery. They didn't, for example, purchase/build a whole fleet of imaging cars and planes like Google did.

Also, because google had their eyes on a different prize than microsoft, the licensing terms of the map imagery had language baked in around reselling.

Re:An unofficial and free mod for FS2020 to load Google Maps... by lapetitejort on Monday November 08, 2021 @06:32PM (#29155723)
My dad hooked up a GPS to his laptop with a serial port and successfully used it with Microsoft Streets as perhaps one of the first car GPS navigation systems, maybe back in 2000 or so. MS bought Streets in 1994, four years before Google was founded. They dropped the ball with maps.
Re:An unofficial and free mod for FS2020 to load Google Maps... by gambiting on Monday November 08, 2021 @07:51PM (#29156349)
Fyi, first GPS navigation system fitted to a production car came in 1990:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automotive_navigation_system

Re:An unofficial and free mod for FS2020 to load Google Maps... by bluedino on Monday November 08, 2021 @08:42PM (#29156694)
MS streets and trips was available at OfficeMax for $50, though.

We used that suction cup attached blue LED USB GPS receiver and a laptop for war driving, so much fun.

Re:An unofficial and free mod for FS2020 to load Google Maps... by tfigment on Monday November 08, 2021 @07:51PM (#29156350)
I did something like this around 1999 to do house hunting in Boston area. Didn't actually work that well for me though.