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Re:All Those 23andMe Spit Tests Were Part of a Bigger Plan by travisparker on Monday November 08, 2021 @09:03AM (#29149375)
“It’s for the ‘greater good’, therefore it’s fine. What could go wrong?”
Re:All Those 23andMe Spit Tests Were Part of a Bigger Plan by mataug on Monday November 08, 2021 @09:56AM (#29149889)
There's no way for insurance companies to buy this data and discriminate against people to improve their bottom line right ?!
Re:All Those 23andMe Spit Tests Were Part of a Bigger Plan by BitwiseFool on Monday November 08, 2021 @10:20AM (#29150131)
I believe this was passed in response to such concerns: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_Information_Nondiscrim...

"The act bars the use of genetic information in health insurance and employment: it prohibits group health plans and health insurers from denying coverage to a healthy individual or charging that person higher premiums based solely on a genetic predisposition to developing a disease in the future, and it bars employers from using individuals' genetic information when making hiring, firing, job placement, or promotion decisions."

Re:All Those 23andMe Spit Tests Were Part of a Bigger Plan by myself248 on Monday November 08, 2021 @10:46AM (#29150450)
How abstracted-away does it have to be? Say one of the credit agencies bought 23andme, and your genetic predispositions became just one factor in a new "life score".

Do we honestly believe the law would consider the whole score tainted and unusable for all the named purposes? Would it have teeth to do anything about it?

Furthermore, it's easy to end-run around it like they've done with car insurance. Instead of raising the rates of privacy-conscious drivers, we'll raise everyone's rates and then offer "discounts" to people willing to submit to tracking. There, perfectly legal!

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Re:All Those 23andMe Spit Tests Were Part of a Bigger Plan by krob on Monday November 08, 2021 @09:50AM (#29149825)
Gain of function? You realize that mother nature is far more sophisticated than us humans. She has manufactured many plagues over the eons. we will likely never come up with viruses that have the kind of crazy cascading systemic building block chaos causing destruction in the human body. Radiation doesn't count because we just figured out we could harness it, but we have very little control over that. Viruses make ionic radiation look like child's play as just like ionizing radiation, studying the thing could kill you within days/weeks/months. You have a voodoo science belief that Dr Evil might create the next real zombie, only @9pm on Fox.
Re:All Those 23andMe Spit Tests Were Part of a Bigger Plan by epistasis on Monday November 08, 2021 @10:42AM (#29150399)
It's really funny how media coverage, combined with all the conspiracy-inducing effects of a global pandemic, have made the concept of "gain of function research" into something that is somehow combinable with 23andMe's database.

I haven't been following much of the media coverage of things like this, or the social media rumor mills, but a comment like that makes it clear that public perception is going way off kilter. And that mismatch between public perception and reality is exactly what fuels bad policy in governments.

Re:All Those 23andMe Spit Tests Were Part of a Bigger Plan by jessriedel on Monday November 08, 2021 @09:57AM (#29149904)
Your lack of concern for gain-of-function research is not shared by experts in the field. They almost uniformly appreciate that that there is a risk of creating a pandemic that would be unlikely to arise naturally, and they take strong (but, imo, not nearly strong enough) safety steps to prevent it.

Nature generally didn't develop wheels or nukes either, but humans did and use them to great effect.

Re:All Those 23andMe Spit Tests Were Part of a Bigger Plan by cblconfederate on Monday November 08, 2021 @09:26AM (#29149589)
What's the better alternative? Halt science as if it's the middle ages?
Re:All Those 23andMe Spit Tests Were Part of a Bigger Plan by jessriedel on Monday November 08, 2021 @09:58AM (#29149918)
You don't have to halt science to decide that the benefits of gain-of-function research is not worth the risk. We don't test nuclear weapons anymore either.
Re:All Those 23andMe Spit Tests Were Part of a Bigger Plan by 7steps2much on Monday November 08, 2021 @10:15AM (#29150094)
Because "we" arrived at a point where they are, arguably, good enough. Not to mention that "others" still do test them. See north korea for example.
Re:All Those 23andMe Spit Tests Were Part of a Bigger Plan by jessriedel on Monday November 08, 2021 @08:59PM (#29156818)
Our knowledge of pathogens is not good enough. See the current pandemic. The question is whether the net benefit of this sort of research, once the risk are properly accounted for, is larger than the benefit we could get with alternative research methods.

The fact that someone else is taking huge risks of unleashing another pandemic is not a good reason for us to do so.