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Re:What is AT&T doing at 1111340002? by jedimastert on Sunday November 07, 2021 @07:38AM (#29138947)
That requires phone manufacturers to consistently send out updates in concert with many many phone carriers, including new ones no one has never heard of. I do not trust a single carrier to do that
Re:What is AT&T doing at 1111340002? by lxgr on Sunday November 07, 2021 @07:52AM (#29139032)
True – not even Apple gets this right, being otherwise pretty good about timely software updates.

My MVNO started being recognized incorrectly as being part of another network years ago, and apparently their engineers have been unable to reach anyone within Apple about the matter and get theem to apply what should be a trivial fix in their IMSI mapping table.

Re:What is AT&T doing at 1111340002? by username190 on Sunday November 07, 2021 @08:43PM (#29145394)
Apple has never been good in this department, according to the folks I've talked to within mobile carriers.

Even Google, a nearly $2T company, operates an MVNO ("Google Fi") that does not work properly on the iPhone, because Apple has not added Fi's GID to the correct list.

Jailbroken users can (in theory) add Fi's GID to T-Mobile's "carrier bundle," and things like Wi-Fi calling, 5G connectivity, etc will work instantly.

Re:What is AT&T doing at 1111340002? by JoshTriplett on Monday November 08, 2021 @12:21PM (#29151593)
Originally there was a technical reason for that: Google Fi uses several carriers, not just T-Mobile, to increase coverage, and at the time preliminary iPhone support first came out for Google Fi, iPhones didn't have support for connecting to two carriers at once and switching back and forth between them based on signal.

So right now, someone on Google Fi with an iPhone and someone on Google Fi with an Android phone can be standing next to each other, and the Android phone could have great signal while the iPhone has zero signal because T-Mobile has no coverage at that location.

I don't know if iPhones now support that; if they do, then there's no longer any technical reason iPhones couldn't have first-class support for Fi.

Re:What is AT&T doing at 1111340002? by fomine3 on Monday November 08, 2021 @01:29AM (#29146573)
I believe this is because Apple don't want iPhone to be used in unapproved network. Apple want to sign agreement with network operator to sell iPhone.
Re:What is AT&T doing at 1111340002? by JoshTriplett on Sunday November 07, 2021 @08:20AM (#29139231)
> That requires phone manufacturers to consistently send out updates in concert with many many phone carriers

The carriers could still provide information about their network, via a standard API.

I'm talking about how this should work if designed well, not incremental steps to get there with non-cooperating entities.

Re:What is AT&T doing at 1111340002? by JohnFen on Sunday November 07, 2021 @11:21AM (#29140735)
> I'm talking about how this should work if designed well

I think that I've fantasized about this magical land with literally every system I've ever worked with in my entire career, including ones of my own design. I've come to suspect that utopia simply doesn't exist.