Stop Making Students Use Eclipse (2020)

Re:Stop Making Students Use Eclipse (2020) by astrobe_ on Sunday November 07, 2021 @05:42AM (#29138195)

I have been programming for 3 decades, the 2 last as a dayjob. It seems to me that there is a deep cultural chasm around the new century. Before 1990 you had next to no Internet and computers were shipped with book-sized printed manuals that were trying to explain how the thing worked, not just how to operate it. After 2000 they begun to come with a single sheet showing how to plug them and www address for perverts who want to download manuals.

However it's not entirely a matter of when you started to touch the keyboard. Around me I see "people who understand" and "people who use" of various ages. Guess who helps who more often.

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Re:Stop Making Students Use Eclipse (2020) by simion314 on Sunday November 07, 2021 @06:30AM (#29138501)

The pint we are discussing is teaching in the first years, I agree that you don't want to hire a c++ programmer that does know what "linking" means or a Java developer that does not know what the classpath is, or a JS developer that does not know that he can leak memory too and you should manually cleanup sometimes in JS too.

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Re:Stop Making Students Use Eclipse (2020) by WithinReason on Sunday November 07, 2021 @05:51AM (#29138233)

In my experience the people who are helping are the ones who use tools that lets them work more efficiently. They have more time to learn new things, while the ones who use less efficient tools use much of their mental effort on the tools themselves.

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