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Re:Stop Making Students Use Eclipse (2020) by jcelerier on Sunday November 07, 2021 @03:53AM (#29137618)
But it isn't the job of the university to create people you want to work with ?
Re:Stop Making Students Use Eclipse (2020) by cerved on Sunday November 07, 2021 @05:24AM (#29138084)
My preference is to work with teams of people that strive for something else than "I'll just use the magic wizard and hope it works." Others can have other preferences.

I don't have an opinion where these people develop these attitudes/skills

Re:Stop Making Students Use Eclipse (2020) by Dudeman112 on Sunday November 07, 2021 @11:03AM (#29140542)
No, unless it's a "professionalization degree" or whatever you call it on your corner of the world.
Re:Stop Making Students Use Eclipse (2020) by jcelerier on Sunday November 07, 2021 @02:22PM (#29142552)
That's the huge majority of all degrees in university ? In my country, from the figures I can find online, there are ~20k "pro" masters vs a few hundred "research" ones. It's entirely negligible (I know it firsthand having been through the research path, which was a single-digit percent of the students in the "pro" path)
Re:Stop Making Students Use Eclipse (2020) by xvector on Sunday November 07, 2021 @04:11AM (#29137704)
It actually is, because why would I pass them during an interview if I don't want to work with them? Thus, the students will be locked out of good jobs - and it's the university's job to give the student the necessary skills to find a good job.