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Re:Fox’s 8-Day Delay on Hulu Triggers Piracy Surge by lhnn on Monday August 22, 2011 @02:53PM (#2913605)
Analogies between digital and physical items regarding piracy are always fallacies.

His point is that if he CAN'T pay for it, having no avenue to give them revenue, then it doesn't hurt the content creator for the OP to consume the video for free.

Re:Fox’s 8-Day Delay on Hulu Triggers Piracy Surge by goatforce5 on Monday August 22, 2011 @03:27PM (#2913727)
You've deprived the content creator (well, a distributor) the chance to make money from you consuming the content at some point in the future.

eg, Fox will let you watch their content on Hulu 8 days after broadcast. But you don't want to wait 8 days, so you go pirate it. Fox makes no money.

If you'd waited the 8 days, Fox would show it to you via Hulu, and show you some ads, and they and Hulu would have made some money.

Re:Fox’s 8-Day Delay on Hulu Triggers Piracy Surge by DasIch on Monday August 22, 2011 @04:20PM (#2913952)
When was the last time you talked to your friends about that episode that was broadcasted eight days ago? In case of media time is a very important aspect of the product that has a significant value.
Re:Fox’s 8-Day Delay on Hulu Triggers Piracy Surge by goatforce5 on Monday August 22, 2011 @04:57PM (#2914088)
I was just talking to someone about Tom Goes to the Mayor, which is a few years old, and The Adam and Joe Show that is over 10 years old.
Re:Fox’s 8-Day Delay on Hulu Triggers Piracy Surge by chopsueyar on Monday August 22, 2011 @06:47PM (#2914478)
He isn't paying Hulu per episode watched, only per month. Fox and Hulu still get their money.

But, by your logic, purchasing any non-expiring stored media, such as a DVD, would deprive "the content creator (well, a distributor) the chance to make money from you consuming the content at some point in the future."

Re:Fox’s 8-Day Delay on Hulu Triggers Piracy Surge by goatforce5 on Monday August 22, 2011 @07:38PM (#2914643)
>He isn't paying Hulu per episode watched, only per month. Fox and Hulu still get their money.

...if Fox gets a cut of the Hulu subscription cost regardless of whether that individual watches any Fox content during the subscription period or not.

> But, by your logic, purchasing any non-expiring stored media, such as a DVD, would deprive "the content creator (well, a distributor) the chance to make money from you consuming the content at some point in the future."

Yes. But they've made your money off your consumption of that content at some point in time.

Re:Fox’s 8-Day Delay on Hulu Triggers Piracy Surge by chopsueyar on Tuesday August 23, 2011 @09:52AM (#2916524)
As Fox did in the Hulu circumstance.
Re:Fox’s 8-Day Delay on Hulu Triggers Piracy Surge by sp332 on Monday August 22, 2011 @03:46PM (#2913804)
Right, if I actually interacted with a distributor in any way, you might make a case that I owe them something. But the whole point is, that I have no interaction with the distributor, so I don't owe them anything. I'm not using their services, so I don't pay them for those services.
Re:Fox’s 8-Day Delay on Hulu Triggers Piracy Surge by goatforce5 on Monday August 22, 2011 @04:56PM (#2914082)
The content creator typically sells some or all rights to their content to a distributor. Often it's that money that allows the content to be made in the first place, and if the distributors weren't there you wouldn't have the same range as content as is available today.

The distributor is a very important part of the creation process at the moment.

Re:Fox’s 8-Day Delay on Hulu Triggers Piracy Surge by sp332 on Monday August 22, 2011 @05:09PM (#2914121)
And if distributors had anything to sell me that I wanted, maybe I would give them some money for it. But they don't sell anything I want to buy, and that's why I'm not giving them any money.
Re:Fox’s 8-Day Delay on Hulu Triggers Piracy Surge by goatforce5 on Monday August 22, 2011 @07:41PM (#2914660)
You don't want to buy it because you don't like the price they want to charge for the thing you want to consume, or you don't want to buy it because you have no interest in the product they're offering?
Re:Fox’s 8-Day Delay on Hulu Triggers Piracy Surge by sp332 on Monday August 22, 2011 @09:17PM (#2914905)
The day after a show airs on FOX, I can't buy it from FOX for any price.
Re:Fox’s 8-Day Delay on Hulu Triggers Piracy Surge by alanfalcon on Tuesday August 23, 2011 @06:35AM (#2916057)
Actually, they do offer it (on Fox.com and Hulu.com) the next day to people who prove they are current Dish customers. They're surely extracting some money from Dish for this arrangement (the way ESPN 3 does from some ISPs), and they created a situation where you can indirectly pay for access to the cotent the next day (assuming Dish is available to you in your part of the world).
Re:Fox’s 8-Day Delay on Hulu Triggers Piracy Surge by goatforce5 on Tuesday August 23, 2011 @07:22AM (#2916145)
The way i'm reading it it's free to watch the next day on Hulu for existing Dish subscribers, or you can watch it on Hulu the next day if you're a Hulu Plus subscriber:

http://www.hulu.com/support/article/20362238

Re:Fox’s 8-Day Delay on Hulu Triggers Piracy Surge by gscott on Monday August 22, 2011 @04:00PM (#2913881)
I mail them $1 every time I pirate one of their shows, so my conscious is clear.
Re:Fox’s 8-Day Delay on Hulu Triggers Piracy Surge by absconditus on Monday August 22, 2011 @06:57PM (#2914510)
He hardly exhausted all avenues. He listed two avenues which cost a total of about $20 per month. Does anyone really believe that we will ever have access to all movies and television shows for $20 per month?