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Re:Mandate is hereby stayed pending further action by this c... by hn_throwaway_99 on Saturday November 06, 2021 @05:22PM (#29133905)
This is the same frustrating nonsense I see over and over. And it's frustrating specifically because many of his points I can agree with (somewhat), but shit like this always devolves into "the evil government and media is trying to keep you down".

I mean look at all the talk of "authoritarianism" and "people enjoy being subjugated". I can only assume he's talking about things like mask and vaccine mandates. Which is so fucking bizarre to me because we've had things like seatbelt and helmet laws for decades, vaccine mandates ever since I was born, and one of his complaints is that "the government and media can politicize anything"?? None of this shit used to be politicized to anywhere near the degree it is today - now even things that have the most mild downsides, yet with clear benefits to others, are "the government is out to own you". All with the same bullshit tone of "ahh, look at those ignorant sheeple"...

Re:Mandate is hereby stayed pending further action by this c... by hammock on Saturday November 06, 2021 @06:41PM (#29134504)
>we've had things like seatbelt and helmet laws for decades

Libertarians and other freedom lovers have been fighting, arguing against and civilly disobeying those laws, vehemently, for as long as they have been in existence. Perhaps it didn't get as much play in the media.

Re:Mandate is hereby stayed pending further action by this c... by hn_throwaway_99 on Saturday November 06, 2021 @07:27PM (#29134854)
I'm actually fine with those "freedom lovers" not having to wear seatbelts or helmets, as long as EMS and doctors are free to leave them on the road.
Re:Mandate is hereby stayed pending further action by this c... by miles on Sunday November 07, 2021 @12:25AM (#29136572)
> I'm actually fine with those "freedom lovers" not having to wear seatbelts or helmets, as long as EMS and doctors are free to leave them on the road.

So you'd be OK with denying life-saving measures to overeaters with diabetes, swingers with AIDS, and smokers with lung cancer? After all, their lifestyle choices are to blame, so according to what you have shared, they don't deserve help.

Re:Mandate is hereby stayed pending further action by this c... by jeherr on Sunday November 07, 2021 @12:25PM (#29141426)
Some people always seem to be in a rush to forget the humanity in people they disagree with so they can justify letting them die in ways they would consider murder if the tables were turned. It’s like they think they’ve found a loophole to behaving morally or ethically that they think society won’t judge them for.
Re:Mandate is hereby stayed pending further action by this c... by virtuallynathan on Saturday November 06, 2021 @10:31PM (#29135999)
There are plenty of risky activities one can legally partake in… are we just going to let those people die when they are injured?
Re:Mandate is hereby stayed pending further action by this c... by spookthesunset on Saturday November 06, 2021 @08:20PM (#29135174)
> Which is so fucking bizarre to me because we've had things like seatbelt and helmet laws for decades, vaccine mandates ever since I was born

It takes a lot of work to go from seatbelt and helmet laws to requiring proof of medical status to enter a clothing store. Especially since most of the people pushing this crap also require everybody to wear masks as well. Like, do these people think vaccines don’t work? Because they sure don’t seem to act like vaccines do anything at all.