Re:Some new BMWs won't have touchscreens thanks to chip shor...
by dafoex on Saturday November 06, 2021 @11:11AM
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Who made them mandatory? When and where? You have other blind spots, too, and manufacturers know that relying on a camera makes drivers neglect their other blind spots - Skoda cars even pop up a toast notification saying "Look around, is it safe to move?" to try and discourage lazy drivers thinking the computer is a replacement for a brain.
But all this feels like a moot point, anyway. I understood the main argument to be advocating the use of physical controls, not the removal of safety sensors and cameras.
Re:Some new BMWs won't have touchscreens thanks to chip shor...
by chrisseaton on Saturday November 06, 2021 @11:14AM
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> Who made them mandatory?
US, Canada, EU (I think they allow an alternative 'detection system'), possibly others.
Re:Some new BMWs won't have touchscreens thanks to chip shor...
by nzmsv on Saturday November 06, 2021 @05:28PM
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I'll be another voice so that it's not just Chris :)
Backover accidents are real. Cameras help a lot. Arguments about "but they are not in all cars" forget that seatbelts, airbags, and ABS were also once in that category.
If you are worried about drivers not being hardcore enough and relying too much on cameras: do you know how to use a choke? What about a crank start? An unsynchronized gearbox?
Re:Some new BMWs won't have touchscreens thanks to chip shor...
by totalZero on Sunday November 07, 2021 @02:55AM
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Your last line reminds me of Dom Toretto. "Granny shifting, not double clutching like you should..."
Re:Some new BMWs won't have touchscreens thanks to chip shor...
by nzmsv on Sunday November 07, 2021 @10:58AM
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Yup. I have never driven a car where you have to double-clutch but I know they exist. Most people probably don't even know this and yet are still good drivers. They get out of driving what they want to get out of it. Not everyone has to drive a vintage car to be called a driver.
(And yes, I know, also trucks)
Re:Some new BMWs won't have touchscreens thanks to chip shor...
by throwaway0a5e on Saturday November 06, 2021 @09:02PM
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I hope you spend a very, very, long time wearing a next brace as the result of reversing into traffic. It would be fitting. Cameras have blind spots too. They're just different ones.
Why do you think they made backup cameras mandatory? Why do you think they believe they save lives?