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Re:Stockholm parents built their own school app, then the ci... by watwut on Thursday November 04, 2021 @02:54PM (#29111093)
Not him, but generally to large extend I have that strategy and kids do well. Both have good grades and are motivated. Obvious caveat is that if their grades were not good, I would get involved more. When their grades fallen a bit, I was there telling them that they need to learn, analyzing test with them and so on and blah blah. When homework was not done, I got involved for a while until the kid got into habit of doing it. Other obvious caveat is that when they ask for help, I always come in to help.

The thing is, hands off approach really works and motivates kids - but it still requires attention and correction. And it does not work with all kids at all ages.

Most people remember 15 years old self and assume kids all ages are as mature as they remember themselves. Meanwhile, most 6 years old are much less developed.

Re:Stockholm parents built their own school app, then the ci... by renewiltord on Thursday November 04, 2021 @03:27PM (#29111494)
How did you know the homework wasn’t done?
Re:Stockholm parents built their own school app, then the ci... by watwut on Thursday November 04, 2021 @03:35PM (#29111573)
When homework is not done, teacher sends the email. Or gave the kid black point and then the kid was unhappy about it and told me. If it did not, that teacher would also send mail, but after like 2-3 points within short period (don't know the exact rules).

The other option is to ask in the evening "have you done homework". One of my kids would never lie and other only rarely, so it worked.

To add to it, old system was not freedom. One feature of old "parents know only what kids tell them" system was that many parents learned about issues only when inevitable end of semester report/grades came. At that point, issues grew large. Even worst, parents were surprised and shocked, tended to react badly, punish the kid , yell, beat them etc. I remember reading about flux of kids running away each time reports come.

Re:Stockholm parents built their own school app, then the ci... by renewiltord on Thursday November 04, 2021 @05:32PM (#29112775)
Okay, with this email business we’re back with the “micromanaging”.
Re:Stockholm parents built their own school app, then the ci... by watwut on Friday November 05, 2021 @03:14AM (#29116268)
In which alternative universe is teacher telling parent that homework 7 years old was not done micromanaging? Even among adults, analyst telling project manager you are not doing tasks right is not micromanaging. Or your peer developer telling pm your quality of work is bad. It is completely absurd.

The whole point of child raising is to raise the child. Not to go "kiddy, if you are not born organized and attentive, tough luck, we gonna do nothing and then blame you for being bad in school when you grow".

Re:Stockholm parents built their own school app, then the ci... by renewiltord on Friday November 05, 2021 @12:58PM (#29121922)
Actually, I agree with that position, which is why I started this sub thread curious about how this comment played out https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29108069

My point is that by the standards of that comment, you are micromanaging. I think those standards are ridiculous, though.

Plainly, parents of successful kids are all very involved. This sort of “you sink or swim on your own merits” nonsense is moronic bullshit.