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Re:Space Station 14 – Open-source remake of Space Station 13 by smoldesu on Thursday November 04, 2021 @12:17PM (#29109029)
SS13 will always have a special place in my juvenile heart, and while I probably wouldn't play it today, I'm glad it's being remade. Supposedly the game performs very poorly under Wine, so having a good native version seems imperative for keeping cross-platform play alive.

If you've never played SS13, by the way, you are the ideal candidate to pick it up and play a few rounds. It's mechanics are highly complex and intertwined: some players are wrapped up in a social sim, while others engage in sabotage. Many players are charged with keeping the peace, others are told to sow discomfort among crew members. The whole thing comes together in a beautifully elaborate machine where all sorts of crazy social situations crop up. Everyone is out for themselves, and that relentlessly petty style of gameplay is what got me hooked when I had nothing more than a Pentium and DSL.

Re:Space Station 14 – Open-source remake of Space Station 13 by tmpmoony on Thursday November 04, 2021 @12:57PM (#29109620)
Poorly is unfortunately an understatement. BYOND itself works fine, but BYOND uses Internet Explorer (great) for game UIs, and many newer SS13 codebases use something called TGUI. TGUI requires IE11, and Wine does not support that, so as a consequence most codebases are simply unplayable.
Re:Space Station 14 – Open-source remake of Space Station 13 by PJB3005 on Thursday November 04, 2021 @01:40PM (#29110240)
Even without the need for IE11, BYOND is nigh unusable on Wine. It runs extremely poorly due to extreme and poor usage of Win32 UI stuff.

There appears to be some form of resource leak in BYOND which causes its Ui system to gradually slow down the longer you're playing. This is severely amplified by presumably Wine being less optimized than Windows in these areas. It means that after just ~15 minutes of playing the client will starts stuttering severely on Wine. Then you need to restart the client which can take 2-3 minutes depending on how broken BYOND's ad loading wants to be. (This also happens on Windows but the effect is MUCH slower so you can go hours without noticing).

Re:Space Station 14 – Open-source remake of Space Station 13 by smoldesu on Thursday November 04, 2021 @02:25PM (#29110765)
I remember getting it to work reasonably well with some heavy-handed tinkering, but it was definitely never at a fully playable state on Linux. The remake utterly flies though, so I have hopes that they'll continue development!
Re:Space Station 14 – Open-source remake of Space Station 13 by waste_monk on Thursday November 04, 2021 @08:35PM (#29114162)
>The whole thing comes together in a beautifully elaborate machine where all sorts of crazy social situations crop up

It's probably been a ~decade or so since I've played SS13 (have gone back every now and then, but not regularly) and have fond memories of the antics that occurred.

One of my first memories as a new player was accidentally wandering into medical, getting knocked out by a couple of players, waking up tied to a chair, force-fed medicine until I died, and then waking up again having been revived, dressed in an EVA suit, stuffed inside a locker with the door welded shut, and thrown out the airlock to spend the rest of the round floating in the black void of space.

Which sounds sadistic, but was very funny at the time. New players were griefed mercilessly, so if you didn't quit you quickly became very proficient at the game (out of necessity, so you didn't spent the bulk of each round in a locker or suffering some other terrible fate).

Re:Space Station 14 – Open-source remake of Space Station 13 by GhettoComputers on Thursday November 04, 2021 @12:55PM (#29109585)
This sounds a lot like a free EVE online. Looks fun, that era of space games was great, I remember I didn’t have consistent internet and played EV Nova a lot.
Re:Space Station 14 – Open-source remake of Space Station 13 by Aromasin on Thursday November 04, 2021 @04:25PM (#29112144)
I wouldn't say it's anything like Eve if I'm honest. More like Among Us with Dwarf Fortress levels of complexity.
Re:Space Station 14 – Open-source remake of Space Station 13 by Talanes on Thursday November 04, 2021 @07:32PM (#29113735)
And little pressure to pro-actively deal with the antagonist. In Among Us you do tasks to defeat the antag, in SS13 you do things because you want to do them, and the antag provides an element of chaos.
Re:Space Station 14 – Open-source remake of Space Station 13 by andrecarini on Thursday November 04, 2021 @02:02PM (#29110492)
> If you've never played SS13, by the way, you are the ideal candidate to pick it up and play a few rounds.

I'd recommend otherwise. The community is extremely toxic and moderators assume everyone have bad intentions. Feels like working with your boss breathing down your neck.

Re:Space Station 14 – Open-source remake of Space Station 13 by Talanes on Thursday November 04, 2021 @05:19PM (#29112655)
I've never even had a moderator talk to me, much less assume anything about my intentions. Different servers will have different cultures.
Re:Space Station 14 – Open-source remake of Space Station 13 by andrecarini on Thursday November 04, 2021 @09:34PM (#29114522)
YMMV.

When have you last played, for how long and in which server? I've had terrible experiences overall on some of the popular ones.

Re:Space Station 14 – Open-source remake of Space Station 13 by Talanes on Friday November 05, 2021 @08:38PM (#29126301)
I pretty exclusively play on /tg./ I was most active years ago, sometime around whenever the launch of mini was. Now I just hop on a few times a year when I can sit and burn an entire night and not worry about how little sleep I'll get.