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Re:U.S. telecoms are going to start physically removing Huaw... by mountainb on Monday November 01, 2021 @07:06PM (#29074457)
It's a simple statement of fact that the United States has no jurisdictional authority over the actions Chinese citizens take in China against American citizens and vice versa. This is a serious problem for reasons such as this, but you cannot refute it as a basic statement of reality.

Put simply, American courts have no authority over Chinese in China, Chinese courts have no authority over Americans in the US, and our courts do not cooperate reciprocally as they do in other countries with alternative diplomatic and legal relations.

Re:U.S. telecoms are going to start physically removing Huaw... by stale2002 on Monday November 01, 2021 @08:11PM (#29075160)
> Put simply, American courts have no authority over Chinese in China

Fortunately, this is of no significant barrier.

It is not a barrier because we, in the US, can ban their hardware anyways, and cause serious economic damage to them anyway.

So it doesn't particularly matter if we use IP law itself, in the courts, against china, when we have other options, such as simply banning their products in this other way.

Re:U.S. telecoms are going to start physically removing Huaw... by mountainb on Monday November 01, 2021 @11:03PM (#29076433)
To do this the US would have to reset its entire diplomatic and trade posture with China. Despite all the rhetoric this isn't happening; the diplobureaucrats will be kicking that can for as long as they possibly can.
Re:U.S. telecoms are going to start physically removing Huaw... by stale2002 on Tuesday November 02, 2021 @01:26PM (#29084439)
> To do this the US would have to reset its entire diplomatic and trade posture with China

No we wouldn't. Literally we are commenting in an article, about what I am suggesting is happening.

So the stuff that the article says is already happening, is what I suggested.

Could it go faster? Maybe. But like I said, we are literally commenting on an article, about how US telecoms are being required to replace certain equipment.

Re:U.S. telecoms are going to start physically removing Huaw... by ravel-bar-foo on Monday November 01, 2021 @11:13PM (#29076505)
The US has jurisdiction over things imported to the US, and apparently over network equipment used in exchanges.

To my knowledge this has not previously been used as punishment for theft of trade secrets (Hwawei was sanctioned for doing business in Iran), but the legal mechanism is there.

Re:U.S. telecoms are going to start physically removing Huaw... by LogonType10 on Monday November 01, 2021 @08:18PM (#29075215)
In essence, it's not theft because they can get away with it.