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Re:Tell HN: Tesla rear-ended me on autopilot, no one will in... by MerelyMortal on Monday November 01, 2021 @06:15PM (#29073926)
A more apt comparison would be if OP was hit by a drunk driver, and there were no laws against drunk driving. It would be appropriate to ask the government to investigate whether or not drunk driving is safe, because it could happen to many more people.
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Re:Tell HN: Tesla rear-ended me on autopilot, no one will in... by situationista on Monday November 01, 2021 @06:22PM (#29074007)
Except that both Tesla and the law make it clear that in a Level 2 system the driver is responsible at all times, regardless of whether Autopilot is engaged or not.
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Re:Tell HN: Tesla rear-ended me on autopilot, no one will in... by riffraff on Monday November 01, 2021 @06:46PM (#29074260)
To stretch the metaphor further, I don't think it's fair to say Tesla makes it clear. Or better, it's not all the story.

People would be less upset with the drunk driver and more with the beer manufacture if they had been imbibing "alcohol free beer" which actually was not alcohol free.

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Re:Tell HN: Tesla rear-ended me on autopilot, no one will in... by manicdee on Monday November 01, 2021 @10:37PM (#29076236)
The car tells you "please keep your hands on the wheel". It then proceeds to nag you if you don't put enough torque on the wheel, and then brings the car to a halt in the middle of the road.

Please don't propagate myths about "Tesla doesn't make it clear that you have to be in control of the vehicle."

My AP has many times disengaged because despite paying attention to the driving I wasn't putting enough torque on the wheel to convince AP that actually had my hands on the wheel.

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Re:Tell HN: Tesla rear-ended me on autopilot, no one will in... by jsight on Monday November 01, 2021 @09:59PM (#29075961)
Have you used it? Because its as clear as any system that I've ever used with a clear statement on each activation.

Most other systems are far less clear, IMO.

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Re:Tell HN: Tesla rear-ended me on autopilot, no one will in... by HWR_14 on Tuesday November 02, 2021 @10:42AM (#29081982)
And a drunk driver is still responsible at all times. That doesn't change the fact that we outlawed drunk driving because it made things worse.
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